I thought it was a very good episode, made brilliant by the last shot of the Doctor.
6.5X010 The Girl Who Waited (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)
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I loved this episode.
Looking back, it's hard to believe that the three leads were the only actors here--kind of like Ark in Space episode one. Great work all around, but particularly from Gillan and Darvill. This is why I keep watching the show. I'm really glad I didn't give up on it.
I also liked the "homage" to Cast Away with the smiley face on the Rory robot.
I had a fridge logic moment after the episode when I wondered why, after 36 years, nobody with the hospital bothered to come down to investigate why their robots kept getting destroyed, but that didn't really matter that much to me.
It seems like the show is just a little better (or in this case, a lot better) when it's working against the Doctor lite/companion lite constraints.
For the first time in months, I'm really looking forward to next week's episode.
And I really liked the long coat, too. Nice look for him.
Looking back, it's hard to believe that the three leads were the only actors here--kind of like Ark in Space episode one. Great work all around, but particularly from Gillan and Darvill. This is why I keep watching the show. I'm really glad I didn't give up on it.
I also liked the "homage" to Cast Away with the smiley face on the Rory robot.
I had a fridge logic moment after the episode when I wondered why, after 36 years, nobody with the hospital bothered to come down to investigate why their robots kept getting destroyed, but that didn't really matter that much to me.
It seems like the show is just a little better (or in this case, a lot better) when it's working against the Doctor lite/companion lite constraints.
For the first time in months, I'm really looking forward to next week's episode.
And I really liked the long coat, too. Nice look for him.
It's not the fact that one exists and one doesn't that's at issue. It's that one literally negates the existence of the other that causes the paradox.
I assumed the facility was automated, and the programming didn't notice because the programmers never considered the possibility that the patients would attack and destroy the robots. The system knew that robots needed to be deployed, but it never considered the reason why.
The difference is in the perspective. Amy spent two thousand years in the Pandorica and was unaware of it. Amy spent thirty-six years in the facility and lived every day, twenty-four hours at a time. Amy knows intellectually that Rory waited two thousand years for her, but she has no personal awareness of that (and since it happened in an aborted timeline, it didn't really happen to "this" Amy anyway). Amy didn't know when or if Rory would return for her this time, and it was clear she'd given up on the idea of ever seeing him again long before he turned up out of the blue.
Amy had lots of reasons to be angry. I wish the episode had had Amy angry because in addition to being robbed of her life, her youth, and her husband, the Doctor had also robbed her of her child.
The difference is that Rory made the choice to wait for Amy. He also had the benefits of not aging, living on Earth rather than an empty hellhole where he's being chased by killer robots every waking moment, and knowing exactly when his wait was going to end. For all Amy knew she was going to die in that place without ever seeing another living person again.
it's Appalapachea.
I thought that was very good. Have to admit that it took a while to get into it, it was a bit slow to start, but once old Amy turned up it really kicked into gear. I thought both Karen and Arthur did brilliantly here, defy anyone to claim they can't act.
Really it was the performances and the direction that made this so great, so many wonderful shots (usually but not always involving two Amys). The story itself...well as with others it felt v Star Trek (which ain't neccesarily a bad thing) Children of Time has always been one of my favourite DS9 eps.
The difficulty is, and the reason I'd only give this 9.5/10 rather than 10/10, is that there's no real chance of it not ending exactly how you think it's gonna end.
Funnily enough I've just rewatched Mawdryn so the BLE did come to mind. I guess the problem is that it wasn't just that it was two Amy's from two times (ala the Brigadier) it was two Amy's one of whom was a paradox.
God the Doctor is a git sometimes ain't he!
And despite sitting there saying "This isn't getting to me at all" when old Amy asked for an image of Earth I did get a lump in my throat.
Really it was the performances and the direction that made this so great, so many wonderful shots (usually but not always involving two Amys). The story itself...well as with others it felt v Star Trek (which ain't neccesarily a bad thing) Children of Time has always been one of my favourite DS9 eps.
The difficulty is, and the reason I'd only give this 9.5/10 rather than 10/10, is that there's no real chance of it not ending exactly how you think it's gonna end.
Funnily enough I've just rewatched Mawdryn so the BLE did come to mind. I guess the problem is that it wasn't just that it was two Amy's from two times (ala the Brigadier) it was two Amy's one of whom was a paradox.
God the Doctor is a git sometimes ain't he!
And despite sitting there saying "This isn't getting to me at all" when old Amy asked for an image of Earth I did get a lump in my throat.
^Yes, but the point is it was her choice not to help that stranded her there. She said she remembered seeing herself refuse to help originally. So she was blaming Rory and the Doctor for her own choice.
It has been known to happen. It would be even weirder if he was dead on about old Amy.My theory is that Guy is an alternate personality of Moffat.
How did he rob her of the child she already had, who had already been stolen?
Or are you hoping Amy somehow gets the baby back?
Good (rating)...
It started of slow but dam towards the end that was powerful stuff and I loved the bit when Rory told the Doctor your trying to make me into you. This episode does hint at the end of their little time travel group, Rory in particular who seems to have had enough of the danger being with the Doctor brings.
It started of slow but dam towards the end that was powerful stuff and I loved the bit when Rory told the Doctor your trying to make me into you. This episode does hint at the end of their little time travel group, Rory in particular who seems to have had enough of the danger being with the Doctor brings.
That moment reminded me of the numerous times John Crichton glimpsed images of Earth before finally returning in Farscape.
I enjoyed it quite a bit. 
(4 Cyber Thumbs up outta 5)
Definitely strange they have both declared they are continuing to star in the show, even after this "Full circle" ( of their Character Arc) episode of the "Girl Who Waited" (Full circle, because she waited for the Doctor all those years as a child, and now, after Rory had waited alot of years for her, she's full circle with that as well). This episode definitely felt like great closure for their final episodes, I can't imagine, why this story was told now, with them having at least a Christmas Special and half season to come, you would think from what they've said?
Could it be misdirection to keep something/someone secret? (I don't really believe it, but, I'm starting to wonder if the Conspiracy Theorists might be onto something?)
(4 Cyber Thumbs up outta 5)Definitely strange they have both declared they are continuing to star in the show, even after this "Full circle" ( of their Character Arc) episode of the "Girl Who Waited" (Full circle, because she waited for the Doctor all those years as a child, and now, after Rory had waited alot of years for her, she's full circle with that as well). This episode definitely felt like great closure for their final episodes, I can't imagine, why this story was told now, with them having at least a Christmas Special and half season to come, you would think from what they've said?
Could it be misdirection to keep something/someone secret? (I don't really believe it, but, I'm starting to wonder if the Conspiracy Theorists might be onto something?)
^Yeah I do agree with that a little. We are still in Season 6, not season 6.5 or 6.9, Season 6. Never liked the whole thing of the ".5" when a season is broken up.
