5x013 The Big Bang (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

[Sparky]

That was pretty poor. Not only is the main bad guy ignored in the finale but nothing much seems to happen

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What main bad guy? The bad guy that has not been introduced yet? The bad guy that the character's didn't even know existed until the last episode? I would have been very ticked if they had introduced the big bad and then dealt with him all in the 2nd half or a 2 parter.

Nothing seems to happen? I'm beginning to wonder if different version were aired.
If Rescuing the Doctor
Explaining why Amy's life is so strange.
Seeing Amy's Aunt
Bringing Amy's parents back
Watching a non-human Rory reclaim his humanity and stay devoted to Amy.
Seeing Amy and Rory's wedding.
Adding to River Song's mystery with the Dalek begging for mercy.
Having the Doctor rescue himself in a very clever Paradox.
Having the Doctor decide to erase himself from history to save the Universe.
Having a nice conversation with River and the Doctor setting up stories for next season.
The Doctor rebooting the universe.
Amy bringing back the Doctor

I'm sure there is more I could list if I watched the episode again.

If all that counts as "nothing much seems to happen" then I don't know what an episode has to have in it to have "something" happen.

 

[Sparky]

Earth being the eye of the storm kept it alive and how could a sun blow up when it never was born

That was one of the few nitpicks I had with the episode. I just figured the sun had exploded and I was a bit confused as to how the Earth could still be there. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks!

 

[Australis]

I'll repeat - the TARDIS shielded the Earth from the exploding Sun. Easy.

You don't have to be spoonfed every bit of information.

Just say, "Hmm, Earth survived. Why? Maybe... TARDIS protected it? Makes sense." Easy.

 

[votd]

As someone said earlier, the sun never existed so didn't blow up; the end of part 1 has all the stars fading out of existence, not massive supernova explosions.

 

[Captain Pike]

Actually I think you'll find that they are supernova-ing, and dialogue at the end of part 1 has Matt saying every star everywhere is simultaneously going nova..

ETA -

 

[Pauln6]

If the Doctor ceased to be, the universe would end anyway - remember Logopolis?

It was the master who had disrupted logopolis, and the master was only there because he was trying to get rid of the Doctor.

Hmm yes and he was only insanely evil because the Time Lords sent a message to him to lure him to rescue them from a time lock essentially created by... the Doctor! So the Master could actually be a kindly cobbler in the new order? Under the thumb of the Daleks, who won the Time War because there was no Doctor...

Damn butterfly effect. I wonder if it also means that Tegan never wore that uniform - because that's a world I don't want to live in

 

[Saul]

Does anyone recognise the markings on the ground that were outside Amy's house when Song investigated in "The Pandorica Opens"?
I was wondering if it was the other Tardis that we saw in "The lodger".

 

[David cgc]

I thought it might be. We didn't get a good look at the feet of the ship when it was revealed. It looked like they were too close together, though, and triangular, while the almost-TARDIS had four legs.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

It'd be great to see that proto-Tardis again... but if the pilot was dead, what would it have to do with the crack storyline?

 

[Rowan Sjet]

I think we only saw two burn marks, but I'm not sure. I thought it might be made by Dalek's beaming in or something, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been able to fit in through Amy's front door.

 

[wamdue]

I thought it was a sign that the aliens had visited her house

 

[Candlelight]

As someone said earlier, the sun never existed so didn't blow up; the end of part 1 has all the stars fading out of existence, not massive supernova explosions.

If the sun never existed, neither would the Earth.

Come to think of it, didn't the Earth form around an alien space ship as seen in that Christmas episode? If that alien species never existed, then...

Or was it only supposed to be a 'shockwave' out from 102AD?

 

[Bones2]

I should've posted here sooner; I've forgotten all my detailed criticisms and compliments. I'll just say what I remember thinking at the time, that this is about a 3 out of 5, and leave it at that.

Well, actually, that bit where the Dalek begs for mercy from River Song? Bloody embarrassing. And all it had to do was turn around and she couldn't have shot through its eye stalk. I'll chalk that up to it being one of the shit new Daleks.

And it's been nearly a week now so my memory of it's faded somewhat, but we didn't really get an explanation for Mr Creepyvoice did we? Or even the cracks really. And what did "silence will fall" mean? And wasn't there something about the light from the Pandorica killing off the silly bastards who trapped the Doctor in the first place? Weren't they the ones who built it? And Amy and Rory just had to remember the Doctor and he was back? On the upside, Rory's a permanent companion now it seems. I rather like him.

As I say,I've forgotten a lot of it now. I might rewatch the last two eps on iPlayer while I still have a chance and give it a more considered opinion. But at the moment, a tentative 3 out of 5.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I should've posted here sooner; I've forgotten all my detailed criticisms and compliments. I'll just say what I remember thinking at the time, that this is about a 3 out of 5, and leave it at that.

Well, actually, that bit where the Dalek begs for mercy from River Song? Bloody embarrassing. And all it had to do was turn around and she couldn't have shot through its eye stalk. I'll chalk that up to it being one of the shit new Daleks.

And it's been nearly a week now so my memory of it's faded somewhat, but we didn't really get an explanation for Mr Creepyvoice did we? Or even the cracks really. And what did "silence will fall" mean? And wasn't there something about the light from the Pandorica killing off the silly bastards who trapped the Doctor in the first place? Weren't they the ones who built it? And Amy and Rory just had to remember the Doctor and he was back? On the upside, Rory's a permanent companion now it seems. I rather like him.

As I say,I've forgotten a lot of it now. I might rewatch the last two eps on iPlayer while I still have a chance and give it a more considered opinion. But at the moment, a tentative 3 out of 5.

They set it up so the big bad follows into the next series, that's why we don't know much about him/her/it.

 

[Tom]

Everyone had gotton to use to RTD epic finales that wrapped up eveerything in the season and usually had someone leaving. Moffet's finalle shook this formula up and was surprisingly refreshing and we had a happy ending while at the same time setting plot holes leading into series 6. Brilliant

 

[Bones2]

They set it up so the big bad follows into the next series, that's why we don't know much about him/her/it.

So long as there is an actual pay-off at some point; not like RTD's silly old woman bothering Wilf in TEOT.

 

[David cgc]

Well, actually, that bit where the Dalek begs for mercy from River Song? Bloody embarrassing. And all it had to do was turn around and she couldn't have shot through its eye stalk. I'll chalk that up to it being one of the shit new Daleks.

She was probably being poetic, anyway. The mutant isn't anywhere near the "head," and if you can blast through one part of a Dalek's casing, you can probably blast through any part.

 

[Samurai8472]

Everyone had gotton to use to RTD epic finales that wrapped up eveerything in the season and usually had someone leaving. Moffet's finalle shook this formula up and was surprisingly refreshing and we had a happy ending while at the same time setting plot holes leading into series 6. Brilliant

Oh yeah i'm glad we're past that

-Doctor has his Jesus moment
-Villain is crucified by the doctor
-Time to say goodbye
-Doctor get's mopey in the TARDIS
-Something crashes the TARDIS

"WHAT?! WHAT?!"

 

[Starkers]

It'd be great to see that proto-Tardis again... but if the pilot was dead, what would it have to do with the crack storyline?

Well this is Moffat, maybe when the Doctor eventually defeats the mysterious bad, maybe his proto-Tardis will go spiralling off where it will crash land on top of James Cordon...

 

[Starkers]

Well, actually, that bit where the Dalek begs for mercy from River Song? Bloody embarrassing. And all it had to do was turn around and she couldn't have shot through its eye stalk. I'll chalk that up to it being one of the shit new Daleks.

She was probably being poetic, anyway. The mutant isn't anywhere near the "head," and if you can blast through one part of a Dalek's casing, you can probably blast through any part.

Plus maybe her gun can fire eyestalk seeking bolts so it wouldn't matter which way the Dalek was facing