4 Clip descriptions from Empire *Spoiler heavy*
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As has been pointed out previously in other threads, TAS was never "decanonized", just made off limits to refer to for a time because of legal issues with Filmation, especially it's break up and dealing with all the licensed properties they had to sort out.
Once that was sorted out to the lawyers' satisfaction, you will note all the TAS references that started creeping into DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. And, of course, the release of the DVD set, including a brief discussion in the extras of precisely this issue.
Bottom line, TAS is canon, ergo, Captain Robert April's status as the first captain of the Enterprise is canon, as well as the Enterprise's primary components being assembled in San Francisco, not Iowa.
Once that was sorted out to the lawyers' satisfaction, you will note all the TAS references that started creeping into DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. And, of course, the release of the DVD set, including a brief discussion in the extras of precisely this issue.
Bottom line, TAS is canon, ergo, Captain Robert April's status as the first captain of the Enterprise is canon, as well as the Enterprise's primary components being assembled in San Francisco, not Iowa.
Soon to be 11 legitimate movies.
Well, isn't that spesul.
Irrelevant detail only you care about, and none of us other fans.
Already canon, and completely valid.
So iconic he's not actually canon. What is your attachment to this character, anyway? Yeesh.
A matter of opinion. I'm not 100% thrilled with it myself, but it isn't that big a deal.
Oh no, besides all that? Oh no.
Uh...yeah they are.
I don't think anyone on this entire forum thinks that Trek has ever been the pinnacle of entertainment, period. Also, no one will be brainwashed. They'll either like it or not, and then leave the theator. So save your pity.
You mean the trailer, right? You haven't seen the movie.
I don't care whether someone on the Internet thinks that I get to be called a "Star Trek fan" or not. I wrote letters to keep it on NBC, damn it, and I was here before most of you.
Oh, and I like what I'm seeing so far.
Oh, and I like what I'm seeing so far.
I don't care whether someone on the Internet thinks that I get to be called a "Star Trek fan" or not. I wrote letters to keep it on NBC, damn it, and I was here before most of you.
Oh, and I like what I'm seeing so far.
Oh man, I heard that giantwingedknome182 thinks you aren't a real Trek fan. Because you apparently "Like Crusher even though Troi is clearly hotter" and "probably smell".
I can believe the last bit.
So is Kirk now younger than Pavel Chekov??
Soon to be 11 movies. There will still only be 10 legitimate ones.
I like the idea of there being another captian of the Enterprise before Pike. It adds more depth to the Enterprise's backstory, and represents amazing storytelling potential, especially since nothing has been established about April. The opportunities here are awe-inspiringly awesome, but sadly no one, not even supposed fans want to acknoweldge such a character exists.
I thought the spoiler indicated McCoy gets Kirk just out of hte academy onto the Enterrpise where Chekov is already an Ensign
That doesn't mean he's older.
So the Academy is now taking twelve year olds?
Ok. So Kirk and Chekov are the same age?? Were they classmates at the Academy?
No, there will be 11 legitimate movies, 10 of which you like. Unless you end up liking it, of course.
Alright, I can see where you're coming from here, but just because Abrams chose not to use the character - or even write him out of canon - doesn't mean he's gone forever. Disappointing? Ok, fine. But it's not a big deal. In 5 years they might make another show with him as Captain. That's the joy of fiction.
He looks more like 25, though I guess he's supposed to be around 18-20. You are talking about Kirk, right?
If you were talking about Checkov, beats me.
There's a twelve year difference in Kirk's and Chekov's ages. Do the math. Either Kirk is the oldest human cadet in Starfleet history (in which case, we're also invalidating every reference to his early service, like his time on the Republic and the Farragut), or Chekov enrolled at the Academy sometime around the second or third grade, is currently of junior high age, and is just very very mature for his age. And we're still stuck with invalidating every reference to Kirk's early service record.
So what makes this one any less legitimate than the others? Further, what puts you in the position to declare a movie illegitimate (and no, your previous argument of: "I gave up sex to know Star Trek inside and out" doesn't count as a good reason)?
Are you sure you want him to answer ?
I mean he has clearly seen the movie already so he may say things that will spoil it for you and us....