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32nd century was a big mistake... BIG

No, but I'd think the goal would be for the audience to feel something besides the need to eyeroll at the latest galaxy ending threat.

It’s superhero logic. The audience aren’t supposed to think everything is going to end. The audience is supposed to wonder at how the main characters figure how to make that *not* happen. This is 101 stuff for these kinds of stories.
 
Guess this all boils down to the general shift over the decades in TV from “How does the Rifleman help or stop this week’s guest star?” to a model that’s more “How does the Rifleman save his town from being destroyed this year?”.
 
Even the ones they were in… it’s only TBoBW and FC where they represent some kind of Federation ending threat.
We may have wondered if Picard would come back, but did we ever wonder if the Borg would win?

Guess this all boils down to the general shift over the decades in TV from “How does the Rifleman help or stop this week’s guest star?” to a model that’s more “How does the Rifleman save his town from being destroyed this year?”.

TOS:
  • Alternative Factor: Universe ending threat.
  • Doomsday Machine: Galactic Threat
  • Immunity Syndrome: Planetary Threat
  • One of Our Planets is Missing: Planetary Threat
  • The Motion Picture AND The Voyage Home: Planetary Threat
It’s superhero logic. The audience aren’t supposed to think everything is going to end. The audience is supposed to wonder at how the main characters figure how to make that *not* happen. This is 101 stuff for these kinds of stories.
I'm not saying Disco wasn't overblown, but the only part of the end of season 2 that worked was not "would they save the day" but "HOW will they save the day" and "What are they willing to do to do it?"
 
TOS:
  • Alternative Factor: Universe ending threat.
  • Doomsday Machine: Galactic Threat
  • Immunity Syndrome: Planetary Threat
  • One of Our Planets is Missing: Planetary Threat
  • The Motion Picture AND The Voyage Home: Planetary Threat
Most of the other 74 or so episodes: neither.
 
Didn't Roddenberry object to any stories that did not put the ship at risk in the TNG days? Talk about "The Rifleman saves the town from being destroyed". (One of the reasons he thought Family was a terrible episode.) Which is why a holodeck romp has to have catastrophic stakes.
 
Guess this all boils down to the general shift over the decades in TV from “How does the Rifleman help or stop this week’s guest star?” to a model that’s more “How does the Rifleman save his town from being destroyed this year?”.
Can't imagine why that happened and why art might reflect a desire to prevent a catastrophic event? 🧐🤔
 
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TOS:
  • Alternative Factor: Universe ending threat.
  • Doomsday Machine: Galactic Threat
  • Immunity Syndrome: Planetary Threat
  • One of Our Planets is Missing: Planetary Threat
  • The Motion Picture AND The Voyage Home: Planetary Threat

That's out of roughly one hundred outings. It seems the streaming live action shows can't help themselves.
 
DISCO:
Season 1 is the End of the Federation by Klingon War.
Actually, the entire multiverse was in danger of being destroyed by Mirror Georgiou's big death ship. Somehow or other...

I was really hoping Starfleet Academy would be lower stakes, like Caleb and his Mom, without the kids saving the whole Federation from Omega bombs.
 
Actually, the entire multiverse was in danger of being destroyed by Mirror Georgiou's big death ship. Somehow or other...

I was really hoping Starfleet Academy would be lower stakes, like Caleb and his Mom, without the kids saving the whole Federation from Omega bombs.
That's right, the multiverse was at stake, too. Thank you for reminding me.


And agreed about SFA.
 
I was really hoping Starfleet Academy would be lower stakes, like Caleb and his Mom, without the kids saving the whole Federation from Omega bombs.
They didn’t even need to threaten the entire Federation, just Betazed would have been enough. This would have tied into how Betazed and its allies had recently decided to rejoin the Federation and been seen as immediate threat to the Venari Ral, and also have given some personal stakes for Tarima.
 
They didn’t even need to threaten the entire Federation, just Betazed would have been enough. This would have tied into how Betazed and its allies had recently decided to rejoin the Federation and been seen as immediate threat to the Venari Ral, and also have given some personal stakes for Tarima.

Yes, the scale of the end of SFA was stupid. It was stupid in how all encompassing it was, it was stupid who was able to set it up, it was stupid in who was able to take it down and how they were able to do it.

It was the most boring part of all of SFA. Which was a show about college kids learning to get along with each other.
 
You just said you can't believe the third episode made it to filming! :p

Liked the first episode, thought the second and third were pretty bad, third and fourth helped redeem it a bit.

I didn’t say it was good, just not as bad as some folks seem to want it to be.
 
I don’t think SFA is necessarily a great show, but five episodes in it is nowhere near as bad as some folks make it out to be.
I quite liked the first four or five episodes but felt it went well off the rails after that. The back half has what I think may be the most genuinely batshit piece of television they've made since PIC S2 (though plenty of people in the thread seemed to like it, so maybe it's just me).
 
Personally I thought 1 and 3 were alright, and I liked 4, 6, 9 and 10 even more. Though it wasn't really my kind of thing a lot of the time.
 
I quite liked the first four or five episodes but felt it went well off the rails after that. The back half has what I think may be the most genuinely batshit piece of television they've made since PIC S2 (though plenty of people in the thread seemed to like it, so maybe it's just me).
Granted, the second half of the season is weaker than the first, but it's still not a bad show.
 
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