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Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Roald, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Roald

    Roald Captain Captain

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  2. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So Discovery is basically a "fugitive ship" on the run, and the first thing they do is pick up Admiral Cornwell and head to Section 31 HQ?

    That's hella plot whiplash that needs to be dealt with in the first act.
     
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  3. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Wonder if they kidnap her and explain the entire situation and she buys into it. Whatever the case, happy to see Admiral Kat back.
     
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  4. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Whatever happened to boldly going where no one has gone before? Discovering new civilizations, new worlds, new life?
    What happened to Star Trek?
     
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  5. Rahul

    Rahul Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I really should avoid these. I watched it at the end of the episode - but I'll try to not watch it again, to not get spoiled.

    The one thing I remember about this trailer: They seem to resolve the Airam-traitor plot already next episode. I really like that. Her being overtaken by an alien A.I. has it's story-logic. And I like that they don't try to keep pushing the revelation down the line. Having teases go on for too long (like Spock this season) can make things feel unnatural.

    The way they do it here - have a set-up in a previous episode (where she was overtaken) - this episode the first conflict (the first time it was obvious there's a traitor on board and stuff not working) - and next episode already the conclusion (the characters finding out what the viewer already knows) - is perfect. Even though we already had the "spy-on-board"-trope on this show (twice!) - this plot development feels rather natural in it's arc. Well done.
     
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  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    We've had a couple episodes of that this season.

    Well remember, Cornwell has the ability to hijack the ship with a few words. I'm guessing she caught up with them.
     
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  7. TrickyDickie

    TrickyDickie Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I keep hearing this in my mind:

    Leland: "Pike! If you do this, you'll never sit in the captain's chair again!"

    :hugegrin:
     
  8. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It could be like last year. "The Federation has been conquered by Klingons!" End episode.
    Next episode begins "Oh, only twenty percent of the Federation fell to the Klingons, never mind."
     
  9. Dukhat

    Dukhat Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I like that the Section 31 space station looks totally like something out of TOS.
     
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  10. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Should have used the Vanguard, like TOSR.
     
  11. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored Gandalf the Great at Social Distancing Moderator

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    So, this next episode is called "Project Daedalus".

    Daedalus fashioned wings for himself and his son Icarus to escape the labyrinth he created for King Minos of Crete. Icarus of course flew too close to the Sun, melting the wax on his wings and causing him to fall to his death in the sea.

    [​IMG]

    The reason I bring it up, is that artificial wings are pretty prominent in the Red Angel design:

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    I don't exactly know how all of it comes together, but just some food for thought.

    Maybe Section 31 created the Red Angel suit and was experimenting with time travel, and someone stole it to try and prevent the future apocalypse they cause. The future squidbots with the Brainiac logos that took over Airiam seem to possibly have some connection with the CONTROL AI that runs Section 31, so maybe that's the villain of the whole thing.

    Going through Section 31 HQ there also had some labyrinth vibes, perhaps with Airiam metaphorically taking on the role of the Minotaur.
     
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  12. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    "Calypso" showed us that given time, Disco computers will come to life. I can see Section 31's Control getting all Skynetty in 500 years and rising up to destroy the Federation.
     
  13. Lord Garth

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    Since Spock didn't kill anyone, Section 31 must've finished the job to frame him. If Cornwell sees evidence of tampering, that'll be enough to put her on Discovery's side against Section 31 and they're in the clear.

    My guess.
     
  14. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Commodore Commodore

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    Yeah, it's pretty clear Section 31 is the bad guy here, and they framed Spock. Why? Because he has information about the Red Angel that is damning to them. Spock has seen the future. I agree with Locutus upthread that the Red Angel suit is a Section 31 experiment.
     
  15. Firebird

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    Michael Piller already had that same thought 21 years ago when he gave Picard the line, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"
     
  16. TrickyDickie

    TrickyDickie Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The Enterprise sure has gone through a lot of refits since those days....

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    ;):lol:
     
  17. Mage

    Mage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I completely agree. I was really dreading the discovery of Airam's take-over being part of the last 15 minutes of the last episode for this season, so to resolve it so fast is really nice!
     
  18. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Or maybe it becomes the V'draysh that Craft and his people are fighting to destroy 1000 years in the future?
     
  19. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Why would an AI need lifepods with Betty Boop cartoons in memory? Or lifepods of any sort.
     
  20. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    IT wouldn't, but that doesn't mean that there wouldn't be any available.
    PEOPLE would still be around and would need to use them.