25th Century Starship Concept

[Ensign Ro-]

Hi All,

I had an idea for a ship design pop into my head the other night. I did a rough frist draft using Adobe Flash. The idea still needs a lot of work, but was wondering what my fellow Trekkies might think of the idea. I was going for a sleek, fluid look. Your feedback is very welcome. :-)


http://devro1962.deviantart.com/art/Starship-Concept-1st-Draft-215721657

 

[Klaus]

Unless that's a small ship, those nacelles seem rather large... but a neat design, very fluid!

 

[Ensign Ro-]

Thanks, Klaus. And I agree...they are rather large. I'm picturing a fairly large ship in my mind. The bridge tower actually sits inside that "channel" cut into the primary hull. Based on that early idea, it's a decent size ship. :-)

 

[JES]

Erm...with the way that the secondary hull hangs under the primary hull, and the way that the nacelles dip down from fore to aft, it gives the impression that it is sinking from the aft. You might want to change the direction the nacelles dip to give her more balance.

The primary hull is a keeper, though.

 

[Maverisms]

^heh, hadn't noticed that, but I agree. It looks like she's heading up, as opposed to sinking, to me. But it does give the impression of a slant.

I like it though. Good start.

 

[Ensign Ro-]

Hmmm, I'm kind of partial to the unique look of the secondary hull. However, I appreciate the critiques. I've done another variation in the hopes that you won't feel like it is "sinking" any longer. LOL

Original Draft - http://devro1962.deviantart.com/#/d3kfnw9

Second Draft - http://devro1962.deviantart.com/#/d3kn2ma

I'm not too sure about the "mouth-like" indentation to the secondary hull though. Was just playing around with some possible contours. Although, if I decided to shrink this vessel down to a fighter-type and gave it the proper paint job, it could have a bit of a WWII "Flying Tigers" feel. lol

 

[RoJoHen]

I don't mind the look of the secondary hull, but the whole ship is angled funny. The original image just looks like it needs to be rotated slightly to the left. It kind of looks like a picture that's hanging crooked on the wall.

 

[BlobVanDam]

An interesting design, and very different. My one issue is that the connection from the nacelles to the body is very undefined and ambiguous from these early sketches. I can't get a feel for the flow of the panels around there and how they attach.
But definitely keep going, because I'm interested to see how it goes.

 

[Ensign Ro-]

Yeah, people don't seem to like the angle. Oh well, I like it. I think it gives it a unique flow. One member here described it as "dolphin-like", which I guess I sort of see. But, she seemed to get what I was going for. Anyway, thanks for checking it out. :-)

 

[Ensign Ro-]

An interesting design, and very different. My one issue is that the connection from the nacelles to the body is very undefined and ambiguous from these early sketches. I can't get a feel for the flow of the panels around there and how they attach.
But definitely keep going, because I'm interested to see how it goes.

Yes, you're right. I know I'm going for a "sans-pylon" design, but am still working on the flow from the primarily hull into the nacelles. Ideally, they will merge seamlessly just inside the bussard collectors. It's still early in the design and I have only a little time to devote to it, but I will definitely see this one (and one other movie-era design) to fruition. Thanks for the input. :-)

 

[JES]

I'm liking what you did with the secondary hull. Not only does it help to reduce the sense that the ship is tipping backwards, but it also matches with my notion that ships from the 25th Century onwards start to integrate their primary and secondary hulls together.

I would still make a part of the top and bottom of the nacelles flattened or curved facing forward, perhaps starting with where the nacelle is gray on top, behind the bussard collectors, to the part of the top of the nacelle where there is lighter gray, which then gently curves backwards, to further give a sense of balance.

I think that it might also help if the mouth-like part around the deflector dish, where it ends towards the rear, didn't look like it was facing downwards.

 

[Ensign Ro-]

Thanks, JES. VERY glad you're liking it and thank you for the input. The link enclosed is for an image containing 3 variations of the design. "Variation 1" pictured is actually the second draft I did of this yet to be named ship. :-)

http://devro1962.deviantart.com/#/d3koa0c

 

[Buck Rogers]

I like it are you going to do blueprints for this design?
Signed
Buck Rogers

 

[Ensign Ro-]

I like it are you going to do blueprints for this design?
Signed
Buck Rogers

That's the plan...and hopefully a 3D rendering one day. Will have to "contract" that out since I currently have no software...and VERY minimal and rusty skills. LOL

 

[publiusr]

I like the original lines of the secondary hull, but I might mount the nacelles to the primary hull and have them lie flat--a new version of the old sketch where the secondary hull only attached to the saucer.

 

[JES]

You're very welcome, and I was happy to give my advice.

I kinda like the 2nd variation, because of how the mouth-like shape points upwards. I think that it helps to give a feel of a counter-balance to the downwards angle of the nacelles.

 

[Ensign Ro-]

@ publiusr - Thanks. I'm not going to scrap my initial idea, I still like it. I appreciate the input and will be trying out the advice you gave. However...

@ JES - I agree. I think my favorite variation is the 2nd one also. That will be the one that I truly start to develop all the various views and detail from. I'll post more to this thread when I again find time to truly start drawing this.

Thank you all for the input and for at least taking a look.

 

[judexavier]

This is really cool, Ensign Ro-. I'm eager to see how you develop it. It reminds me a little of something I messed with a good while back,

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prise.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prisepsd.jpg

...then gave up on. Couldn't get the curves and sleekness that you have here.
And, I used a stupid faired in/airscoop thing for the nacelle-saucer joint. (?)

(sorry if I'm overstepping, trying to show what I think is a wrong (mine), and right approach (Ensign Ro-'s) to a similar concept)

I also really dig the curved, lowered rear end look. I think that really sets it apart from more standard design studies.

 

[Ensign Ro-]

This is really cool, Ensign Ro-. I'm eager to see how you develop it. It reminds me a little of something I messed with a good while back,

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prise.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prisepsd.jpg

...then gave up on. Couldn't get the curves and sleekness that you have here.
And, I used a stupid faired in/airscoop thing for the nacelle-saucer joint. (?)

(sorry if I'm overstepping, trying to show what I think is a wrong (mine), and right approach (Ensign Ro-'s) to a similar concept)

I also really dig the curved, lowered rear end look. I think that really sets it apart from more standard design studies.

Woah...there is some definite similarities. I assure you this is the first I see of your work. LOL We obviously shot for different eras. And usually, I would go for a movie-era design myself. Here is one of my designs from that era that I have yet to fully develop...

http://devro1962.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d3daog0

And thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you are liking it thus far. :-)

 

[judexavier]

This is really cool, Ensign Ro-. I'm eager to see how you develop it. It reminds me a little of something I messed with a good while back,

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prise.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/bat-o-prisepsd.jpg

...then gave up on. Couldn't get the curves and sleekness that you have here.
And, I used a stupid faired in/airscoop thing for the nacelle-saucer joint. (?)

(sorry if I'm overstepping, trying to show what I think is a wrong (mine), and right approach (Ensign Ro-'s) to a similar concept)

I also really dig the curved, lowered rear end look. I think that really sets it apart from more standard design studies.

Woah...there is some definite similarities. I assure you this is the first I see of your work. LOL We obviously shot for different eras. And usually, I would go for a movie-era design myself. Here is one of my designs from that era that I have yet to fully develop...

http://devro1962.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d3daog0

And thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you are liking it thus far. :-)

Actually I've never posted it before now, the similarities are what intrigued me about your design. And to be honest, I have no idea of what era mine was going to belong in

Your Perseus concept is really slick, can't wait to see that done as well.