24th century Toilet

[RobertScorpio]

Yeah yeah yeah, we see them here or there and they are spoken of in passing. But, when you come right down to it, how does it work. I have to believe they like to save water in the future. So does the 'toilet' beam out your business into space? Or does that matter, gag me if this is true, get recycled as food or the holo-babe you diddle with in the Holo-suite?

And what if you REALLY REALLY have to go pee? The suits they where don't exactlly look 'removal friendly' for either men or women or Tellarites.

Yes, not the most important question. But just incase I get zapped into the future, I need to know these things!!!

 

[Sci]

Yeah yeah yeah, we see them here or there and they are spoken of in passing. But, when you come right down to it, how does it work. I have to believe they like to save water in the future. So does the 'toilet' beam out your business into space? Or does that matter, gag me if this is true, get recycled as food or the holo-babe you diddle with in the Holo-suite?

And what if you REALLY REALLY have to go pee? The suits they where don't exactlly look 'removal friendly' for either men or women or Tellarites.

Yes, not the most important question. But just incase I get zapped into the future, I need to know these things!!!

I see no particular reason to presume that toilets work any differently in the 24th Century, especially since water efficiency wouldn't be a concern since they can both replicate more water and can break down water into its constituent particles for use in replicating other objects.

I would, however, presume that the "waste extraction" system referred to in DS9 functions by taking the waste products of individuals and breaking them down into their constituent atoms for use in replicators.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Yeah yeah yeah, we see them here or there and they are spoken of in passing. But, when you come right down to it, how does it work. I have to believe they like to save water in the future. So does the 'toilet' beam out your business into space? Or does that matter, gag me if this is true, get recycled as food or the holo-babe you diddle with in the Holo-suite?

And what if you REALLY REALLY have to go pee? The suits they where don't exactlly look 'removal friendly' for either men or women or Tellarites.

Yes, not the most important question. But just incase I get zapped into the future, I need to know these things!!!

I see no particular reason to presume that toilets work any differently in the 24th Century, especially since water efficiency wouldn't be a concern since they can both replicate more water and can break down water into its constituent particles for use in replicating other objects.

I would, however, presume that the "waste extraction" system referred to in DS9 functions by taking the waste products of individuals and breaking them down into their constituent atoms for use in replicators.

So, the food your eating could be made from the atoms that used to be last night's digested dinner? Ewwwwwwwww. What if there was a malfunction and they weren't broken down all the way. I think moving to the Omarion Nebula with the New Dominion is the way to go!!!

 

[Sci]

Yeah yeah yeah, we see them here or there and they are spoken of in passing. But, when you come right down to it, how does it work. I have to believe they like to save water in the future. So does the 'toilet' beam out your business into space? Or does that matter, gag me if this is true, get recycled as food or the holo-babe you diddle with in the Holo-suite?

And what if you REALLY REALLY have to go pee? The suits they where don't exactlly look 'removal friendly' for either men or women or Tellarites.

Yes, not the most important question. But just incase I get zapped into the future, I need to know these things!!!

I see no particular reason to presume that toilets work any differently in the 24th Century, especially since water efficiency wouldn't be a concern since they can both replicate more water and can break down water into its constituent particles for use in replicating other objects.

I would, however, presume that the "waste extraction" system referred to in DS9 functions by taking the waste products of individuals and breaking them down into their constituent atoms for use in replicators.

So, the food your eating could be made from the atoms that used to be last night's digested dinner? Ewwwwwwwww.

Why ew? It's not like the constituted material is the same. There's no bacteria. The atoms would all be rearranged into entirely new molecules. It's no more ew than eating a vegetable that grew because feces was used as a fertilizer. Yeah, sure, some of the atoms in that vegetable were once in that feces, but so what? It underwent a chemical change and is no longer feces.

What if there was a malfunction and they weren't broken down all the way.

Then they wouldn't end up in the replicators' storage units, which are, from what I recall from the TNG Tech Manuel, only designed to handle constituent particles, not actual materials. In other words: If it's not broken down all the way, then it won't end up in the replicator (or, if it does, it will break the replicator), thus ensuring that nothing you eat will still have poop in it.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Nevermind how toilets work.

My question is - when do they go? I mean, there are no bathrooms that I know of on the bridge level - though the TNG role playing game has schematics where a bathroom is off of the hall going to the ready room, with another off the Captain's ready room.

But we never see officers on the bridge ask to be relieved to do their business. All indications show they are stuck there for eight straight hours without a bathroom break!

 

[Sci]

Nevermind how toilets work.

My question is - when do they go? I mean, there are no bathrooms that I know of on the bridge level - though the TNG role playing game has schematics where a bathroom is off of the hall going to the ready room, with another off the Captain's ready room.

But we never see officers on the bridge ask to be relieved to do their business. All indications show they are stuck there for eight straight hours without a bathroom break!

Have we ever seen an officer working throughout his full eight-hour shift?

 

[Bill Morris]

I was wondering about the facilities on shuttles, not to mention escape pods.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

They take pills that makes all waste material turn to a odourless vapor.

 

[gojiragirl]

Actually, you'd be amazed at how absorbent those regulation starfleet uniforms are.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

Nevermind how toilets work.

My question is - when do they go? I mean, there are no bathrooms that I know of on the bridge level - though the TNG role playing game has schematics where a bathroom is off of the hall going to the ready room, with another off the Captain's ready room.

But we never see officers on the bridge ask to be relieved to do their business. All indications show they are stuck there for eight straight hours without a bathroom break!

That's assuming they're on watch for eight hour shifts. On RL USN or USCG ships, a typical watch is 4 hours... and you quickly learn that if you're the OOD, you had better be ready to be there for the full watch. (In other words, go beforehand!)

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[StarMan]

I always assumed the transporters regularly beamed out the contents of the crew's bowels and bladders.

But they had to be wary of that cheeky Miles O'Brien, who got knocked down from lieutenant to petty officer for beaming items *into* everyone's bowels.

Worf literally shit bricks.

 

[EnsignRicky]

I just want to know if the water goes down clockwise or counter clockwise.

 

[EnsignJulka]

I know, they wear special nappies...

 

[Deks]

Using transporters to beam out waste seems like a waste of power. As such they would render human orifices like the vagina, penis and anus useless, and I find it utterly stupid to stop a bodily function simply because you are lazy ... plus while I think it's possible to use transporters for extracting waste out of the body, I don't think it's done or reccomended.
If the toilets are similar to anything we have today (which is a possibility, but not a definitive one) then I would sooner say all of the waste that is left behind is 'flushed' away (or a similar 24th century Trek analogy of the term) to the specialized system that breaks everything down to the most basic usable components (probably like being converted into energy and basic atoms for later use ... and that's the only viable usage I see of the transporters for waste extraction ... or it's more likely the waste goes through a certain area in the system that breaks it down to atoms and energy).

Essentially speaking, the 24th century relies more on matter conversion technology ... changing energy into matter and back again (replicators are the same in this aspect and they only need to be programmed with items they can create, or if you want to make something of your own, you must provide the formula for it ... and anything else is done through conversion of energy into matter or specific material structure necessary to create virtually any object/meal/whatever ... provided of course it doesn't go beyond the replicators ability to do so and the energy requirements aren't astronomic for a specific item).

Energy is used to power every system on the ship and SF can convert it into matter.
Recycling saves power, and no one really cares from whos anus their dinner came out.
That is because in the end your dinner will essentially taste/smell of what you wanted and nothing else with a flavour of poop or urinary liquid will be present.

This is why SF ships basically have an abundance of power ... well, for the most part that is.
The Malon for example were presented with the idea of recycling which would essentially solve most of their problems with their waste which is on top of everything toxic and they rejected it.
The waste problems practically never happens on a SF ship due to the systems in place that would use/reuse anything available in all ship systems.
SF - safe for the environment.

 

[Sephiroth]

the question is not when, but if data and the Doctor can

 

[FalTorPan]

Yeah yeah yeah, we see them here or there and they are spoken of in passing.

Am I the only one who noticed the perhaps unintentional pun in that sentence?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Well, I do remember that, in Star Trek V, when our heroes are in the new brig, Kirk pushes a button on the wall when he says "I gotta sit down" after he hears of Sybok's origins from Spock. This little seat pops out of the wall and Kirk sits down. If you look carefully, there is a sign over the seat that reads "Do not use in Spacedock".

Do the math.

 

[HRHTheKING]

Toilets in Star Trek should be pretty much the same as they are now.

Only with blue water, because blue water looks futuristic.

:thumbsup:

 

[blakbyrd]

Toilets in Star Trek should be pretty much the same as they are now.

Only with blue water, because blue water looks futuristic.

:thumbsup:

Agreed.

 

[USS Excelsior]

In real life airplane and train toilets work totally differently. There is no water, there's some kind of suction force at work, that is more efficient than regular toilets.