2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (LOL NO)

[Ryan8bit]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

MLB says it has cancelled as many as 65 million All Star ballots

Huh. Didn't see that one coming. I wonder how long before there's another surge in Royals voting?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

I wouldn't shed a tear if they dropped fan voting altogether, like they did back when it was Reds fans stuffing the ballot box.

So, you may ask, how would they choose the players then? Not my problem. Just don't do it like this, because voting clearly is not working.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

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^Here's how I'd do it:

I'd have the coaches vote on the rosters for both leagues, then have the fans vote for the starters based on the players who have already been elected to the team, which prevents undeserving players from being elected starters.

--Sran

 

[Tom Hendricks]

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I was watching the Yankees game last night, ARod had two hits and only needed one more for 3000. The entire stadium was standing for him and booing the picture who was clearly pitching around him if not actually trying to hit him.

Its funny what a year will change. A year earlier and I'm not sure this would have been the situation.


ETA: And ARod Homers in first at bat, being the 29th member to join the 3000 hit club.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

And of course the knob who caught A-Rod's homer won't give it back.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

Anyone else amused by the irony of both Jeter and Rodriguez recording their 3000th hits the same way? And that fan should give the ball back; he'll get plenty of nice gifts from the Yankees in return.

--Sran

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

And that fan should give the ball back; he'll get plenty of nice gifts from the Yankees in return.

And it's just the right thing to do, besides.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

I don't know, he caught it and he can do with it what ever he likes. Maybe some dope will offer him $10,000 for it. That's better then ARods autographed jock strap and poster

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

^But is that dope actually Rodriguez himself? Is the fan hoping A-Rod pays him a huge sum to get the ball back? Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't think I'd want to keep a milestone home run ball; that belongs to the player in question. I'd be perfectly happy to hand it over in exchange for the opportunity to meet the player, or maybe for tickets to a future game.

--Sran

 

[Timby]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

And of course the knob who caught A-Rod's homer won't give it back.

That guy is a notorious ballhawk. He claims to have more than 8,000 balls and I personally witnessed him shoving a kid out of the way to catch a batting practice flyball at Turner Field a year or two ago. Complete jackwagon.

Edit: Seriously, major douche:

 

[cardinal biggles]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

Well, this is pretty symbolic of how the Phillies' season is going:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z6DNqkRh1c[/yt]

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

^Slightly OT, but am I the only one who thinks the Cardinals should never have ditched the navy blue caps?

--Sran

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

Either cap is fine, but I HATE their alternate home jerseys.

 

[Timby]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

Starlin Castro, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

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^His teammates reactions (particularly Henricks') are the funniest part of that clip. They've gotta' be tied of him booting balls left and right.

--Sran

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

Yes, I was very upset.

 

[Timby]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

^His teammates reactions (particularly Henricks') are the funniest part of that clip. They've gotta' be tied of him booting balls left and right.

--Sran

It wasn't the booting of the ball that was the worst part, it was that he put his head down and pouted after the error and allowed the runner at third to just jog into home ... hence Hendricks' reaction:

But this is what Castro is. He's treating Cubs fans to a robust .644 OPS this season and is getting on base nearly 30% of the time. Castro's inability to walk means that his ability to hit for average makes his entire offensive value (which is all he is good for, considering his abysmal defense) completely dependent on BABIP. In his all-star seasons, it's hovered around .340. It's currently at .301, and unless he manages to get that up, he is one of the worst everyday players in the league.

Dude's had some cool walkoffs, but he is not a good baseball player, and the Cubs should really trade him to some dumb team that doesn't realize that yet.

 

[Jedi_Master]

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From ESPN:

New documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986.

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But new documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Cincinnati Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986. The documents go beyond the evidence presented in the 1989 Dowd report that led to Rose's banishment and provide the first written record that Rose bet while he was still on the field.

"This does it. This closes the door," said John Dowd, the former federal prosecutor who led MLB's investigation.

The documents are copies of pages from a notebook seized from the home of former Rose associate Michael Bertolini during a raid by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service in October 1989, nearly two months after Rose was declared permanently ineligible by Major League Baseball. Their authenticity has been verified by two people who took part in the raid, which was part of a mail fraud investigation and unrelated to gambling. For 26 years, the notebook has remained under court-ordered seal and is currently stored in the National Archives' New York office, where officials have declined requests to release it publicly.

Rose, through his lawyer, Raymond Genco, issued a statement: "Since we submitted the application earlier this year, we committed to MLB that we would not comment on specific matters relating to reinstatement. I need to maintain that. To be sure, I'm eager to sit down with [MLB commissioner Rob] Manfred to address my entire history -- the good and the bad -- and my long personal journey since baseball. That meeting likely will come sometime after the All-Star break. Therefore at this point, it's not appropriate to comment on any specifics." Bertolini's lawyer, Nicholas De Feis, said his client is "not interested in speaking to anyone about these issues."

The documents obtained by Outside the Lines, which reflect betting records from March through July 1986, show no evidence that Rose, who was a player-manager in 1986, bet against his team. They provide a vivid snapshot of how extensive Rose's betting life was in 1986:

• In the time covered in the notebook, from March through July, Rose bet on at least one MLB team on 30 different days. It's impossible to count the exact number of times he bet on baseball games because not every day's entries are legible.

• But on 21 of the days it's clear he bet on baseball, he gambled on the Reds, including on games in which he played.

• Most bets, regardless of sport, were about $2,000. The largest single bet was $5,500 on the Boston Celtics, a bet he lost.

• Rose bet heavily on college and professional basketball, losing $15,400 on one day in March. That came during his worst week of the four-month span, when he lost $25,500.

On Oct. 13, a few days after the undercover house tour and after obtaining a search warrant, they searched Bertolini's home and found evidence that would lead to numerous convictions. But one item stood out: In a box of papers in the basement, Barney said, was a spiral notebook filled with handwritten entries.

It was immediately clear that the many notations of "PETE" in the pages represented Pete Rose.

"There were numbers and dates and -- it was a book for sports betting," Barney said. "I was taken aback."

Flynn, who said her first reaction was "Holy mackerel," said they asked Bertolini about the notebook.

"He wasn't forthcoming with much information," she said, "but he did acknowledge to me it was records of bets he made for Pete Rose."

"I wish I had been able to use it [the book] all those years he was denying he bet on baseball," said Flynn, the former postal inspector. "He's a liar."

To Dowd, one of the most compelling elements of the newly uncovered evidence is that it supports the charge that Rose was betting with mob-connected bookies through Bertolini. Dowd's investigation had established that Rose was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt at the time he was banished from the game.

"Bertolini nails down the connection to organized crime on Long Island and New York. And that is a very powerful problem," Dowd said. "[Ohio bookie] Ron Peters is a golf pro, so he's got other occupations. But the boys in New York are about breaking arms and knees.

"The implications for baseball are terrible. [The mob] had a mortgage on Pete while he was a player and manager."

 

[Timby]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

As recently as a few months ago, Rose was insisting that he only bet on baseball as a manager, never as a player.

(And if Rose was betting money on 1986 Pete Rose to help win games then he's as big an idiot as he is a liar.)

Man, fuck that guy. The only thing worse than people arguing for Pete Rose’s reinstatement is Fay Vincent pretending he still has relevancy in 2015.

 

[Yanks]

Re: 2015 MLB Season - Can the Cubs FINALLY win the World Series? (No.)

As recently as a few months ago, Rose was insisting that he only bet on baseball as a manager, never as a player.

(And if Rose was betting money on 1986 Pete Rose to help win games then he's as big an idiot as he is a liar.)

Man, fuck that guy. The only thing worse than people arguing for Pete Rose’s reinstatement is Fay Vincent pretending he still has relevancy in 2015.

Yup... I actually thought something might happen in Cinci at the All-Star game.