2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

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  1. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I could not stop laughing when I saw that Josh Reddick's entrance music is "Careless Whisper" and everybody in that shit pot Coliseum is swaying back and forth like an 80's high school dance. :guffaw:
     
  2. Jedi_Master

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    Hey man don't hate on George Michael.

    The A's are a "quirky" team. For heavens sake Dan Otero has a pink unicorn backpack he brings to games. We like quirky, and fun. Creating a fun, quirky, entertaining environment is the best we can do considering that prick Selig doesn't have the stones to make any decision on the San Jose move.
     
  3. Mr. Laser Beam

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    It's not so much the song itself, just the crowd's reaction. Watching them all sway back and forth like that..absolutely priceless. Complete with cardboard cutouts of saxophones. :lol:

    As for the move: The A's can't move anymore, can they? My understanding about that new 10-year lease is that they have to stay in the Coliseum, or build a new ballpark on the same site. Is this not correct?
     
  4. Jedi_Master

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    They have to stay for at least two years and if they leave after that, they have to pay a 1.6 million dollar penalty per year remaining on the lease.

    They also are supposed to engage in "good faith" negotiations with the city of Oakland to build a new stadium in the city.

    The problem is that Oakland has oh-so generously suggested some "prime" locations for a new stadium that would require the A's to spend tens of millions of dollars to clean up industrial brownfields and still end up in a stadium that would be poorly situated for their fans, and not do anything to add to their revenue stream.

    So the City of Oakland has not exactly been a helpful partner in this endeavor.
     
  5. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I also love the bit about the "Machado Migration". :techman:
     
  6. Jedi_Master

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    I missed that one... I don't know what you are talking about. Was it a sign at the game?
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ It wasn't at this game, no, just a bit that the Mets broadcasters were talking about. Remember that whole thing with Manny Machado when he was getting into hissy fits with the A's? Well when the O's came to the Coliseum, the fans in the right field bleachers (the ones with all those signs) got their tickets switched to behind the visitors' dugout just so they could heckle the shit out of Manny. Thus the term, Manny Migration.
     
  8. Jedi_Master

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    I never heard about that... that's great. Those right field bleacher fans are nuts, in a good way.

    Machado is a cry baby, and deserved whatever he got.
     
  9. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

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    Eh, on a per capita basis, it's probably not so bad. Besides, they have two World Series championships. I'm sure there are worse franchises.
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    I know the Cubs are going nowhere this year, but they need to find ways of giving the young guys some starts.

    Solution: dump Edwin Jackson now. Cut the guy and pay him off. Nobody's going to trade anything for him.

    Tonight, 2.2IP, 7 ER. The absolute weakest link on the team. Arrieta, Wada, Hendricks....all giving quality starts, Wood too. Jackson is a trainwreck.
     
  11. Green Shirt

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    Add my 2 arms to the list. Not that anyone cares. :)
     
  12. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    Well, I was thoroughly enjoying our trip to Boston until last night. The Angels won, but lost Garrett Richards, possibly for the season.

    Damn!

    :scream:
     
  13. Timby

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    He's not blocking anyone of note (depending on what one thinks of Turner, and he projects as a reliever anyway), so there isn't much harm in shoveling him out there every fifth day; if you really think the window starts to open next year, as Epstein and Hoyer do, you still have until the end of March before you have to decide to fire him into the sun (or trade him to Baltimore). He used to be one of the most quietly reliable innings-eaters in baseball and two years ago I would have said that he'd be a perfect middle-of-the-rotation guy for almost any team in the league.

    His xFIP is over a run and a half lower than his ERA, his BABIP is a rather horrific .346, up from .322 last year, so luck is part of the equation as well. If he weren't already a Cub, I'm guessing the front office would be looking to buy low on him this winter. It's not like he looks like he's throwing slop up there, he's just wildly inconsistent inning to inning, even at-bat to at-bat.

    If I'm the Cubs, I'm trying to keep Jackson in the rotation -- maybe go to a six-man rotation the rest of the way so you can find work for Turner / Doubront. There's really no point in not letting Jackson try to work things out -- his value won't get lower, and if he can get himself un-fucked, he'd be nice to have at the back of the rotation next year. And given the Cubs' position on the Giants' protest, they're happy to openly tank.
     
  14. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Yeah, Turner was one name that was mentioned as "let him start & see what happens" rather than put him in the bullpen right away.

    He talks about starting, so probably has the starter mentality that doesn't always do well as a reliever.
     
  15. Timby

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    Turner just doesn't project well to me. He got tarred and feathered so badly last year in AAA and the majors that Miami sent him all the way back to High-A for a couple of games this year, for heaven's sake. His dinger stats aren't impressive at all (averaging about a homer per game), but beyond that he walks way too many guys and doesn't strike out nearly enough to compensate.

    He's out of options, though, which puts the Cubs in a bit of a conundrum. He's a fireballer but doesn't have much going on beyond that -- his changeup is terrible, and while he was originally supposed to have a world-class curveball, it's really fallen off the map and he has trouble locating his slider, so he's basically a 1.5-pitch guy. Maybe Bosio can work some magic with him, but honestly I'd put him in long relief / mop-up and see what he can do for the rest of the season, given the Cubs' well-known bullpen woes.
     
  16. Timby

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    David Price: Complete game, 9 strikeouts, zero walks, one hit ... loss.

    Yep, pitcher wins and losses, that right there is a meaningful number, yes sir.
     
  17. Tom Hendricks

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    I watched that game today, great game.
     
  18. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    Dear Boston,

    Even though your field ate Garrett Richards, we appreciate the hospitality.

    Your Pals,

    The Los Angeles Angels
     
  19. Skywalker

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    I saw that Richards injury as it happened. Me and my dad (both Sox fans) were watching the game together. Just about a year ago he was out golfing and he was walking down a little hill, chasing after a lost golf ball, when suddenly he started to slip. One shoe caught in the grass and his foot stuck, but his knee kept going. He ended up tearing his patella tendon. When we saw the way Richards went down, we looked at each other and instantly knew what had happened.

    It's too bad, he was having a great year and the Angels are really going to miss him in these final weeks. But it could have been worse. My dad was mostly back to full strength in four months or so, so I imagine Richards will be good to go by the time pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training next year.
     
  20. 1001001

    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    No doubt the Angels will miss him down the stretch. Just one of those bizarre things, I guess.

    :scream:

    Shoemaker sure had a nice game last night.

    3 big games at Oakland coming up. 6-1 so far on this road trip. Let's keep it going!!

    :techman:
     
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