2011 NFL Season - A New Game

[gh4chiefs]

Ya know gh4chiefs, I should put you in contact with one of my co-workers. Major Chiefs fan. But, he doesn't trust them as far as he could throw one of the linemen. His only expectation year-to-year is that they will suck for most of the season..... and then come to life at the very end just enough to screw up their draft pick. Last season had him completely bewildered. Even this season when they bounced back from the bad start, he had a very firm stance that they were just getting lucky and the wheels were bound to fall off as soon as they were out of range for Luck. I think if he could rub his lack of trust off on you, you might enjoy these games more.

Well you saw the results from last night and the last 3 weeks. They're just not getting beat, they're getting blown out, week after week after week. They're a BAD team that haven't earned any respect or trust.

Here's the thing I realized last night, for all of Pioli's reputation as the ex-Pats football guru, for all his "NFL Executive of the Year" kudos, this franchise is NO CLOSER to being prepared for a superbowl run than it was when Herm Edwards left a miserable 2-14 season behind.

And it's pretty disheartening as a fan to just go thru the same shit year after year after year and never seem to take a step forward. Different owner, different GM, different coach but the same old joke of a franchise.

 

[Timby]

OK so let me get this straight Haley. You're on the Pats 35 with a 4th and less than a yard and you don't go for it. Then you turn around and try an onside kick and give them the ball deep inside your territory?

I guess this is what you get when you hire a golf pro to be a NFL head coach.

Haley played golf in college. Settle down..

Settle down? How about you taking fucking retard for your coach in Chicago.

What in the world?

 

[SmoothieX]

OK so let me get this straight Haley. You're on the Pats 35 with a 4th and less than a yard and you don't go for it. Then you turn around and try an onside kick and give them the ball deep inside your territory?

I guess this is what you get when you hire a golf pro to be a NFL head coach.

I leaned over to my wife and totally called this one. The kicker was fiddling with the ball incessantly before he spotted it on the tee, and the way the kicking team lined up, you just had a feeling something was up. It was easier to tell in person, they were all right on the 30 waiting to go, then they kicked it 7 yards and turned it over.

OK so let me get this straight Haley. You're on the Pats 35 with a 4th and less than a yard and you don't go for it. Then you turn around and try an onside kick and give them the ball deep inside your territory?

I guess this is what you get when you hire a golf pro to be a NFL head coach.

Haley played golf in college. Settle down.

Honestly, up 3 - 0 early in the game, an onside kick isn't a terrible idea. It's not like the Chiefs have any playoff aspirations right now. Might as well have some fun.

Agreed. You're up on the road against a highly favored team that can't move the ball so far, the collective sphincter of the crowd is tightening up, and you have nothing to lose in that crappy division.

That cushy MNF game against the lowly Chiefs is not looking so certain right now.

i had to bump this because I thought it was hysterical when Smoothie posted it at the time. I think he's at the game tonight, and I'm sure he's more than happy to eat these words.

Well enough of this beat down, time for bed.

This was a weird one to be at. When it was 3-0 KC mid second quarter, it was dead in the stands, you could hear a pin drop. Suddenly it's 24-3 early third quarter and it's quiet the other way it turned into a rout with no suspense.

Also I'm glad the Pats went for the final TD at the end, KC did not need to take those timeouts. My ride home is a train the leaves 30 minutes after the end of the game, so I'm sitting there at 11:30 in the cold in a blowout watching KC stall the game.

gh4chiefs - You have been officially Gronk'd.

 

[gh4chiefs]

Well what I'm saying that makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER that he was afraid to risk turning the ball over when they were on the Pats side of the field on the 4th down play but it was no problem on the Chiefs side of the field.

It's all about risk vs reward. What's the risk going for on 4th down vs the potential reward? The risk is you turn the ball over in Pats territory and reward is you are closer to at least being in FG range (plus you keep momentum.) But with the onsides kick, even if you recover, you STILL have to drive a long ways to even get in FG range, and if you don't recover, damn you've just handed the ball over to one of the best QB's to ever play the game with a short field.

Hailey needs to find a new job, managing game decisions ain't his thing.

 

[SmoothieX]

^The Pats pooped themselves on the ensuing drive, but I see your point.

If the Pats played a healthy team with an experienced QB with how miserable the offense was playing in the first half, they woulda been down 17-0.

I'm convinced Belichick won't stop until every player on both sides of the ball is a short, slow, undrafted player from a D-II college.

Also, why was Brady still playing mid-4th quarter on? Much less running QB sneaks?!?

Best part of the night had to be on the train waiting to leave the stadium, some real real drunk girl is complaining that it's hot and crowded on the train. Some people, sick of her whining, convinced her and her equally drunk and ditzy friend, to get off and wait for the next train if it was bothering them so much. So they did.

Did I mention this is a special game day train? There's only one there and back. Thanks for coming.

 

[gh4chiefs]

Well that first half pass rush by the Chiefs was NOT normal. I don't know WhereTF that came from. It was kind of nice to see for a change.

And at the drunk girl story. Wonder how they got home?

 

[SmoothieX]

Not sure. Foxborough is in the middle of nowhere though. Less so with Patriot Place and the CBS Scene, but still out there.

 

[gh4chiefs]

I'm kind of amused by your description of "middle of nowhere." I was on I-95 a couple of years ago and I remember passing the sign for the turnoff to the stadium and I was thinking how it seemed like "wall to wall" people to me out there. It's all relative I guess.

 

[SmoothieX]

Middle of nowhere is a bad term. I like the middle of nowhere. One of the reasons we're moving next year is to get out of such a big metro area.

A better term is isolated. Foxborough proper is a smallish town without many services there. It's about 25 miles from Boston, without a direct mass transit link. (The gameday train runs on a spur track not typically used for commuters.) Basically, if you got stuck there at 1 AM in the stadium parking lot, you'd be screwed without a car. The stadium is not in a downtown area near a transportation hub.

 

[gh4chiefs]

Well hopefully they found a taxi. Otherwise they might still be there.

 

[SmoothieX]

Next home game ain't for 2 weeks. That's a long time to hang around Patriot Place...

If you are ever in the area on a game day, it's a really nice stadium. Pretty solid sight lines from all around.

Plus no matter how many times they fire off the muskets, the End Zone Militia never gets old. I may have to buy my wife a tricorn hat and some gun powder for Xmas.

 

[the 4th hanson bro]

In a move that even Earnie Frantz could have seen coming, the Broncos have cut Kyle Orton.

The Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton, team executive vice president John Elway announced today, ending his run with the team.
Orton and his agent David Dunn had started talking to Broncos officials about the move after it was learned Chicago Bears' quarterback Jay Cutler suffered a broken thumb on his right passing thumb Sunday that will likely sideline him for the rest of the season.

Does he last long enough in the waiver process for the Bears to claim him?

 

[Timby]

Given Martz's irrational hatred of Hanie, I can see them moving on him.

 

[Skywalker]

Jay Glazer tweeted that Orton's likeliest landing places might be Chicago or Kansas City. Makes sense.

 

[Sheep]

I like Orton but I don't know how well he'd pick up Martz's offensive schemes. Yes, the same could be said about some of the other names being tossed about for the Bears to pick up as a backup, but they also don't come with the premium price tag that Orton would.

 

[tighr]

Wow. Whirlwind adventure for Orton. Back to the Bears, potentially?

I always thought he was the better passer than Cutler anyway.

 

[Skywalker]

Wow. Whirlwind adventure for Orton. Back to the Bears, potentially?

I always thought he was the better passer than Cutler anyway.

Cutler is the best quarterback the Bears have had in years.

 

[Timby]

I like Orton but I don't know how well he'd pick up Martz's offensive schemes. Yes, the same could be said about some of the other names being tossed about for the Bears to pick up as a backup, but they also don't come with the premium price tag that Orton would.

To be fair, the Bears don't even really run Martz's typical offense at this point, outside of when he starts getting cute and calls fifteen passes in a row or whatever.

Wow. Whirlwind adventure for Orton. Back to the Bears, potentially?

I always thought he was the better passer than Cutler anyway.

What in the world? Cutler's the only legitimately good quarterback the Bears have had in the entire Super Bowl era.

 

[archeryguy1701]

I think it's good for Orton that he'll potentially get another chance to show himself off before this offseason's free agency kicks off, but I'm not liking the fact that he might end up on either KC or Chicago for no reason other than we have to face them. Obviously he wasn't winning in Denver, but he's a good enough QB that in the right situation he could be a problem. I was really liking Denver's odds against both those teams, esp with the starting QB's out, but plugging Orton into either team could make it more of an issue. I would be more scared of Orton to Chicago than I would be of Orton to KC.

Edit to add- this could be a good opportunity for Chicago too. If they get him off the waiver wire, he's only under contract until the end of this season so they could safely have him stand in for Cutler without having too much of a QB controversy hanging over their heads in the offseason. Use him and let him go on his merry way.

 

[Kirby]

Good move for Orton wherever he lands. Aside from the first 6 games of his first season with the Broncos, his time here has been pretty lackluster; and to have to deal with the "All Tebow, all the time" atmosphere of the fans and media here in Denver this year, he must be excited to go. Anywhere.