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2010 books set in the alt. timeline of JJ Abrams Star Trek movie

Getting a handle on the characters isn't that hard, because they're still the same people at the core; only some of the biographical and performance details differ. It's just a matter of taking what I know about these characters I've grown up with and folding in what we learned about their new versions in the movie. So it's still Kirk, but it's a younger Kirk with more arrogance and attitude and less self-discipline. It's still Spock, but it's a more tentative Spock who's coping with a tragic loss. It's still Uhura, but it's a more assertive, driven, no-nonsense Uhura who's got more of a history with Kirk and an ongoing relationship with Spock. It's still Scotty, but with a tendency toward funny rambling like Simon Pegg. It's still Chekov, but he's a teen prodigy and an assistant science officer (like he was in the early 2nd season) rather than a navigator or security guy. (Don't ask me why an assistant science officer is sitting at the station next to the helm, though.) And Bones and Sulu are pretty much exactly the same.
 
Indeed. Some of the characters' voices have changed more than others. Chris Pine's Kirk dialogue is more colloquial and contemporary than Shatner's. "Are you kidding me, man?"

And I think Pegg's Scotty is a bit more disreputable than Doohan's, which was fun to write.

And Uhura maybe has a little more attitude . . . .
 
Isn't Chekov still a navigator?

No, he is not. There's exactly one point in the film where he does anything remotely connected to navigation, and that's giving Sulu some assistance pertaining to the Titan atmospheric maneuver. Everything else he does is in the capacity of a science officer or a transporter operator. And even that one thing at Titan could be seen as consistent with a science officer's bailiwick, in terms of providing information needed by another officer.
 
As I said, his actual duties as shown in the film have no connection to navigation except in one peripheral case. He's seen giving exposition to the crew over the intercom (like Spock did in "Balance of Terror"), monitoring telemetry from the orbital jump, performing a delicate transporter operation (as Spock did on some occasions in TOS), calculating a strategy for sneaking up on Nero based on astrophysical knowledge. Setting aside everything from the Prime universe, setting aside preconceptions, the preponderance of evidence in the film itself is that Chekov is a science officer. (And again, that was one of Prime Universe Chekov's duties. In fact, he was shown as a science officer two or three times before we ever saw him at navigation, and he continued to function as a backup science officer after that point.)
 
Well the transporter thing was because "he could do this", not because he was assigned to the transporter crew or sciences. I think he saw the problem as a "navigation" problem, which is why he came up with a solution the transporter crew did not. The tactics used in the assult on the Narada might be navigational related too. Knowing where stuff is and what happens if you get near them sounds navagational to me.

I would think Spock was acting as XO not SO, when he made his annoucement in BOT.
 
My take on it was the Chekov was primarily assigned to Navigation, but his duties went beyond that. Remember, as Pike stated, he was a prodigy.

It's nothing new in Trek, and in real life, as well, to perform multiple functions.

As Christopher stated, Chekov Prime was seen performing duties besides that of navigator. And in TNG, both Data and Wesley did, too.
 
Well the transporter thing was because "he could do this", not because he was assigned to the transporter crew or sciences. I think he saw the problem as a "navigation" problem, which is why he came up with a solution the transporter crew did not.

That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying that a pastry chef could perform brain surgery better than a brain surgeon because she can bring fresh ideas. The only way he could've pulled off such a difficult feat of transporter operation is if he's an expert in transporter operation. And indeed Chekov's biographical profile on the official movie website states that he was top of his class in transporter theory as well as stellar cartography and is an expert in advanced theoretical physics.


The tactics used in the assult on the Narada might be navigational related too. Knowing where stuff is and what happens if you get near them sounds navagational to me.

But what you're doing is starting with your desired conclusion -- "Chekov is a navigator" -- and selectively interpreting the evidence to support it. That's backwards. The way to find the truth is to base your conclusions on the evidence.

This Chekov was born eight years after the timelines diverged, so his whole life history is separate from Chekov Prime's. He was even born four years earlier than Chekov Prime. So forget Chekov Prime. Forget your assumptions and expectations based on the old timeline. Treat this film as an entirely new, self-contained entity. Look at all the things the character named Pavel Chekov does in the film. Briefing the crew on a mission, performing a delicate transporter feat, engaging in scientific exposition and problem-solving. If you were totally new to Star Trek, if you knew nothing whatsoever about Pavel Chekov (or the layout of the Enterprise bridge) beyond what was shown in this film, it would never even occur to you that he was the navigator.

Besides, it's not like Chekov Prime was defined solely by his navigation duties. When he was first introduced, in "Catspaw" and then in "Friday's Child," he was a science officer, manning Spock's station while Spock was on-planet. We didn't see Chekov in the navigator's seat until "Who Mourns for Adonais?" After that, Chekov continued to double as an assistant science officer in numerous episodes and was often portrayed as Spock's protege. And he was often included on landing parties as well. In the movie era, he became the chief of security and then first officer of the Reliant. So Chekov had many duties, as any command-track officer rising through the ranks would. He was never defined exclusively as a navigator. And he was established as a science officer before he became a navigator. So why can't he start out as a science officer in the Abramsverse too?
 
Well, but aside from the mission briefing, most of the stuff he does in the movie is presented as outside his usual purview - he doesn't accomplish the transporter thing from his console, and everyone seems surprised when he comes up with a way to ambush the Narada. The only things we see him actually use his console to do are:

1) Assist sulu
2) Fire weapons (and announce weapon systems are ready, at the end)
3) Give a briefing
4) Monitor the away team as they complete their mission

This indicates to me he's a tactical officer, actually. His job is to be aware of what is happening at all times, make sure the crew is aware of what is happening at all times, and shoot things.

In all fairness, though, Sulu does most of that stuff too at some point or other. The movie is pretty unclear on most of the job differentiation, aside from Sulu flying and Uhura doing communications. Now that I think of it, is Spock is ever presented as science officer at all?
 
In the new book (which hasn't been approved yet), I basically wrote him as the tactical officer. He fires the phasers, raises the shields, alerts Kirk to potential threats, and so on, while Sulu pilots the ship.
 
I seem to recall that the first draft of Alan Dean Foster's novelization referred to Chekov as a tactical or security officer. But I called him an assistant science officer in the Seek a Newer World manuscript and nobody's asked me to change it.

At first, I wasn't sure who the tactical officer was in the movie, so when I saw it for the third time, I made a point of paying attention to who was firing the weapons. It turned out it was Sulu. I don't recall seeing Chekov fire weapons.
 
Chekov would probably be better described as the operations officer. As Thrawn points out, the transporter save and plotting the Titan plan weren't shown as being part of his job and they weren't carried out from his bridge station.

Though, I don't see any reason why an ops officer couldn't assist the science officer.
 
I'm glad I read this thread. I'll have to take a closer look at how I described Chekov's duties when I get the copyedited manuscript for More Beautiful Than Death.
 
I'm glad I read this thread. I'll have to take a closer look at how I described Chekov's duties when I get the copyedited manuscript for More Beautiful Than Death.
Never thought I'd see the day when the Internet acted as an editor.
 
And indeed Chekov's biographical profile on the official movie website states that he was top of his class in transporter theory as well as stellar cartography and is an expert in advanced theoretical physics.
It also says "Specialty: Navigation."

Besides, it's not like Chekov Prime was defined solely by his navigation duties. When he was first introduced, in "Catspaw" and then in "Friday's Child," he was a science officer, manning Spock's station while Spock was on-planet. We didn't see Chekov in the navigator's seat until "Who Mourns for Adonais?"
Well, that depends on when you first saw him. The first time anyone saw him on network television was in "Amok Time," where he was working Navigation.
 
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