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Luke and Han and Lando were in the Rebellion near the end of the war. The real heroes were the ones who organized the rebellion and kept it alive, with no Jedi to help them...only their wits and their courage.

There's a story in that, I think.
Yeah! They risk their necks for decades and then Darth Vader's barely-grown kids come along and use political connections and Jedi superpowers to steal all the glory. Think how pissed they must have been!

Well, kid - Leia was involved from the start.

From the start? She was, what, 19 when ANH begins? Was she smuggling battle plans as a fetus? :rommie:
 
Yeah! They risk their necks for decades and then Darth Vader's barely-grown kids come along and use political connections and Jedi superpowers to steal all the glory. Think how pissed they must have been!

Well, kid - Leia was involved from the start.

From the start? She was, what, 19 when ANH begins? Was she smuggling battle plans as a fetus? :rommie:

The actual rebellion didn't start all that long before A New Hope, certainly not decades. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed shows how it got started and how its creation was a mistake on the part of the Emperor and Vader.
 
To NBC's credit, they tried airing the original UK version of MERLIN this summer.

Unfortunately, nobody seemed to notice . . . .

I enjoyed the show Merlin and was hoping it would continue.

Nice fresh look at the Arthurian legend with younger characters.
 
Well, kid - Leia was involved from the start.

From the start? She was, what, 19 when ANH begins? Was she smuggling battle plans as a fetus? :rommie:

The actual rebellion didn't start all that long before A New Hope, certainly not decades. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed shows how it got started and how its creation was a mistake on the part of the Emperor and Vader.

Aaah, that timeline makes no sense. Resistance to the sudden overthrow of the established order should have kicked in pretty much immediately. The events of ANH and ESB struck me as the end game of a 20 year long struggle.
 
And what exactly were Bail Organa and Obi-Wan doing in all that time, hmm?

The good thing is, being a series authored by Lucas, it doesn't have to give two figs for the Expanded Universe timeline, so you really could show the previous twenty years of rebel activity.
 
I actually know zero about Riverworld, but I liked Tin Man and Alice so much that I'm eager to see anything else put out by that production team.

I highly recommend the novels by Philip Jose Farmer.


Coming out soon from Tor! (Plug, plug.)


What's coming out soon from Tor? The original books by PJF? A novelization of the new miniseries?

And why "plug, plug"? Did you write the novelization or are you really PJF?
 
Aaah, that timeline makes no sense. Resistance to the sudden overthrow of the established order should have kicked in pretty much immediately. The events of ANH and ESB struck me as the end game of a 20 year long struggle.

From The Force Unleashed, Leia is clearly not much younger than she is in A New Hope.

While the roots of the rebellion can be found even before Revenge of the Sith, they did not exist as an organised group until after Vader and the Emperor sent Galen Marek to create them so those who would resist the Emperor could be flushed out.

The Rebellion's symbol is even the Marek family crest.
 
Aaah, that timeline makes no sense. Resistance to the sudden overthrow of the established order should have kicked in pretty much immediately. The events of ANH and ESB struck me as the end game of a 20 year long struggle.

From The Force Unleashed, Leia is clearly not much younger than she is in A New Hope.

While the roots of the rebellion can be found even before Revenge of the Sith, they did not exist as an organised group until after Vader and the Emperor sent Galen Marek to create them so those who would resist the Emperor could be flushed out.

The Rebellion's symbol is even the Marek family crest.

Is this from a video game? A comic book?
 
Is this from a video game? A comic book?

Video game, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. (Well, there was a novel and a comic to go alongside it as well)

While the TV show could certainly ignore this, video games are as canon as anything else in the Expanded Universe - in this case especially so given the level of involvement Lucas had. The game was nicknamed Episode Three and a Half.

The short version of the story is that Vader is sent to kill a Jedi survivor called Kento Marek. He does so but finds his young force sensitive son Galen. Vader takes the boy as a secret apprentice and trains him with the intention of having him help kill the Emperor eventually.

Years later, Marek has become a very powerful Sith (so powerful he is able to hold his own against Vader and even the Emperor). When the Emperor finally learns of his existence, he forces Vader to kill him. Vader secretly has Marek brought back to life and sends him off to foster a rebellion against the Emperor as a distraction.

Marek eventually meets Bail and Leia Organa and others. In fact, the Emperor and Vader had planned for Marek to expose those who would rebel so they could be captured. Marek, however, is starting to turn to good and tries to save them to get back at Vader and the Emperor.

Marek defeats Vader and then the Emperor but is stopped from killing either of them. The new Rebel leaders escape but Marek is killed. The Rebels then choose to organise under Marek's family crest as a tribute to him.
 
And what exactly were Bail Organa and Obi-Wan doing in all that time, hmm?
It makes sense that they kicked off the Rebellion immediately, but didn't make any overt moves at first, since those moves would have been expected. They would have spent the first few years regrouping but within, say, five years, they should have regrouped well enough that their Rebellion would be worthy of the name at least. Powerful people who are accustomed to being influential and getting their way, who see their cherished way of life and ideals (not to mention their power base) overthrown, don't just sit on their asses.

The twins would be part of a long-term plan. With Leia handed off to a politically powerful family and groomed for leadership, she seems like Plan A. When the Force kicks in for her, she'll already be a respected leader of the Rebellion.

Luke wasn't trained or groomed for anything, and Obi-Wan didn't even pay attention to him till Luke came to him because of a totally random event, and it's extremely odd that he was "hidden" with Anakin's own family. Bail and Obi-Wan might have figured Vader would think Padme had only one child - and Vader might have suspected all along who Leia really was - and therefore he wouldn't be looking for a second child anywhere, much less on Tatooine of all places. Luke was Plan B in case his much more high-profile sister, who was in far more danger, was killed.

But if Lucas tried to write the roots of the Rebellion story, I'm sure he'd frak up the political verissimilitude, because he didn't manage to create anything approaching a politically believable landscape in the Prequels. There's a difference between declaring that this or that happens, and actually selling it to the audience.
 
Luke wasn't trained or groomed for anything, and Obi-Wan didn't even pay attention to him till Luke came to him because of a totally random event,
We-ell... Luke knew him, and of him. He was clearly watching over the boy, even from afar. In retrospect giving the boy the basic know-how of Jedi-dom might have been a sensible call, but hey, there's plenty of rocks he could be busy wandering around.

But if Lucas tried to write the roots of the Rebellion story, I'm sure he'd frak up the political verissimilitude, because he didn't manage to create anything approaching a politically believable landscape in the Prequels. There's a difference between declaring that this or that happens, and actually selling it to the audience.
An element that has only worsened in the Clone Wars. The more that series attempts to explain politics, the less sense it makes. It's entered a sort of null-space as a result of the Santine arc and the Notorious ripoff episode.

But really, this is Star Wars. We're not here for the vaguely defined politicking. Let's just have some eager beaver rebels down on their luck fighting the Big Meanies, throw in a lasersword maybe, and get John Williams to dawdle a theme or two. It ain't hard.
 
According to the EU, Bail, along with Mon Mothma, work to change things from the Imperial senate while covertly doing other stuff. It isn't till the Force Unleashed that the rebellion starts to really get going though. For some reason however Bail isn't re-captured (He's captured in the game and taken to the Death Star), although Mon Mothma pretty much becomes a fugitive.


There's a few novels here and there (Mainly Scholastic's Last of the Jedi) where Obi-Wan goes on a few missions during his exile, and even encounters other surviving Jedi. Legacy even has him partially responsible for the creation of *another* Sith Lord, Darth Krayt.


Regarding Temis's point about the start of the rebellion being political, this is pretty much what happens in the ROTS deleted scenes. Palpatine is setting up the regional governors (The Moffs) and there is a senatorial petition with 2000 signers that wants to stop him. Here's the wiki page that describes this protorebellion:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Delegation_of_2000


Part of the reason the Rebellion is initially small might have something to do with the Clone Wars, in which the seperatists were sort of a rebellion, although one better organized, larger, and far less moral than the alliance. Perhaps the Rebels didn't want to start another Civil war right away. As Bail Organa does say: "We're not seperatists" in ROTS's script, and Padme, when she starts talking about the government failing, Anakin accuses her of being a seperatist.
 
The networks are increasingly warming up to projects that come in the door much more fully formed than in the traditional process by which writers pitch concepts to network buyers and hope to land a script order. Spec pilot sales are becoming more commonplace, as are projects that are pitched out detailed over 13-episode arcs with the goal of securing more than just a pilot order.
"You're automatically going to get more attention when you come in with a package or a (completed) script," says a lit agent who guided a scribe client through a non-traditional sale this year.
After the idea piqued Rice's interest, he helped recruit heavyweights Steven Spielberg and Peter Chernin as exec producers. "Terra Nova" is now seen as a likely to eschew a single pilot in favor of a 13-episode order (probably for midseason) once the casting process is complete. With the elaborate sets and special effects the project demands, it makes more financial sense for Fox and its 20th Century Fox TV sibling to go all-in for 13 segs in order to better amortize the startup costs.
May 1, 2010
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118018597.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

Now a show like Defying Gravity from 2009 was produced for 13 episodes by 3 production companies sharing costs.
The choice by ABC to cancel Defying Gravity in the United States after 8 episodes was their choice to cut their losses on the remaining episodes never airing. The costs of all the spaceship interior sets, spacesuits, CGI 2 ship models were all spread over the 13 episodes though rather than the pilot's production design & costume design suffering because of lack of budget.

I think more scifi episodic TV series could get 13-episode orders and start rather than lone pilots which never get a series order. If a show is deemed worthy to sell Internationally then the money gets put in and the season 1 gets made. Story arcs over episodes & the season allow for better more complex stories and better overall character development.
I hope for SciFi TV series the International production model from Defying Gravity is done again. When the time is right in years to come for a Trek series 6 to get off the ground which What channel should a new Trek TV series be on? in America isn't just the only consideration for who funds the series.
 
To NBC's credit, they tried airing the original UK version of MERLIN this summer.

Unfortunately, nobody seemed to notice . . . .

I enjoyed the show Merlin and was hoping it would continue.

Nice fresh look at the Arthurian legend with younger characters.
Actually Merlin is still on in the US, they just moved it to Syfy. It's about half-way through the second season right now.
 
Actually George Lucas is doing something very smart. He's taking this time to sit back with his stable of writers and thinkers and come up with ideas and scripts for not only an entire season but for the overall planned series arc framework for the whole entire run like a backbone to flesh out like Strazinski did with B5. I wish Star Trek would do that like now. George is building his universe while Abrams is knocking down his and burning it.
 
I'm looking at the IMDB page for "Nikita" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592154/fullcredits#cast I have no idea who Maggie Q is... but Shane West as Michael? Hmmm... :vulcan: So I suppose Melinda Clarke is Madeline... Aaron Stanford - could be Birkoff? But I don't see any actors in this list old enough to play Operations or Walte, every actor except Clarke seems to be 30 or under. Have the roles not been cast yet, or did they just decide to ditch any older characters? :shifty:
 
I'm looking at the IMDB page for "Nikita" I have no idea who Maggie Q is...
see MI:3's Maggie Q in talks for title character
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=3850668&postcount=31

Have the roles not been cast yet,
and this thread 3 principle actors cast
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=3910439&postcount=34
for who plays the new Nikita.

Any other info would be on that thread:
CW is making a pilot for remake of "La Femme Nikita"
 
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