12 Regenerations Left or 11 Regenerations Left.

[CmndrSela318]

I was just sitting here watching Day Of The Doctor and a thought crossed my mind. Does regenerating from the Matt Smith doctor to the Peter Capaldi doctor count as using 1 of those 12 new regenerations the doctor got in Time Of The Doctor? I think it does, but that's just me.
What do you think?

EDIT
The reason I think it is using one of them is this:
He was out of regenerations. He got a new set of 12 regenerations. Then he regenerated from the Matt Smith doctor to the Peter Capaldi doctor.

 

[Candlelight]

He has eleven left. Hartnell was a biological Time Lord and then he regenerated twelve times. He's been given twelve more, and one is already used up.

Capaldi is the first of twelve new incarnations.

 

[Christopher]

He has eleven left. Hartnell was a biological Time Lord and then he regenerated twelve times. He's been given twelve more, and one is already used up.

Capaldi is the first of twelve new incarnations.

This, basically. It's not 13 lives plus 13 lives; it's 1 naturally-born life plus 12 regenerations plus 12 regenerations.

Of course, it doesn't really matter, because once the Doctor uses up those 12, if the show is still on the air, then the producers will contrive a way to give him yet another new cycle as easily as Moffat did here. The Doctor has as many regenerations "left" as he'll need to keep the show on the air.

 

[MacLeod]

^True, and besides who knows how many regenerations the Time Lords gifted to the Doctor at the end of TDOTD.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

^True, and besides who knows how many regenerations the Time Lords gifted to the Doctor at the end of TDOTD.

"Whole new set of regenerations" implies the standard 12.

 

[Christopher]

"Whole new set of regenerations" implies the standard 12.

I agree, but it still doesn't matter except in the abstract. And it took him 50 years to get through the first set of lives, so this is really a debate we could leave for our grandkids to have...

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever!

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I've assumed there are 13. I understand the argument either way, I just think the evidence is about equal and this is the way to go. It won't matter until we reach that point anyway.

 

[Christopher]

^ Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever!

Which doesn't preclude having grandkids.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^but I'll be around to have it with them

 

[Christopher]

Sure, but either way, the point is, it's not something we'll have to worry about for a very long time. And even then, it'll be as easily handwaved away as it was this time, so it'll never be anything more than academic.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ oh yeah, there's no doubt about that.

 

[DWF]

It didn't really take 50 years the first time around, the show was off the air except for the tV movie for soem 16 years. It'll really depend on how long the individual incarnations last.

 

[Sindatur]

It didn't really take 50 years the first time around, the show was off the air except for the tV movie for soem 16 years. It'll really depend on how long the individual incarnations last.

True, though, the average was generally at least 3 years for the first 26 Series (T. Baker and Pertwee skewing it higher), and in NuWho has kept that average pace above 3. So, Odds are we should be able to at least count on 35 Years.

 

[Christopher]

And who knows? It's quite possible that the series will be cancelled again and then revived again a decade or two later.

 

[Sindatur]

And who knows? It's quite possible that the series will be cancelled again and then revived again a decade or two later.

Hey, NOW!!! Watch your language

 

[Captaindemotion]

But he's right. We've developed this sense of entitlement over the last 9 years (holy crap!) but few BBC drama series run continually for years on end. It's not inconceivable that Who could be rested again or at least undergo Sherlock-like 2 year gaps between seasons.

 

[DWF]

It's best not to think about cancellation or even a later revival and just enjoy what we've got. Moffat even sped up the end of the Doctor's natural life cycle, which could happen again sadly.

 

[Sindatur]

But he's right. We've developed this sense of entitlement over the last 9 years (holy crap!) but few BBC drama series run continually for years on end. It's not inconceivable that Who could be rested again or at least undergo Sherlock-like 2 year gaps between seasons.

Absolutely, that's why I was so surprised by some of the more vehement complaining by Britons about Moffet's half Series creating a "Gap Year" technically.

Heck, Red Dwarf's 25th Anniversary was celebrated with a 10th Series, right? And the episode count was not consistent, I don't believe. That's the only one I can point to offhand, but, I seem to recall looking up other British Series that ran for multiple years, but, not every year.

 

[DWF]

But he's right. We've developed this sense of entitlement over the last 9 years (holy crap!) but few BBC drama series run continually for years on end. It's not inconceivable that Who could be rested again or at least undergo Sherlock-like 2 year gaps between seasons.

Absolutely, that's why I was so surprised by some of the more vehement complaining by Britons about Moffet's half Series creating a "Gap Year" technically.

Heck, Red Dwarf's 25th Anniversary was celebrated with a 10th Series, right? And the episode count was not consistent, I don't believe. That's the only one I can point to offhand, but, I seem to recall looking up other British Series that ran for multiple years, but, not every year.

Ofhand I can only think of three Doctor In The House, The Avengers and The Tomorrow People.