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10 Things Mission Impossible III Can Teach Us About Abrams Star Trek

Re: 10 Things Mission Impossible III Can Teach Us About Abrams Star Tr

Raping the Phelps character in the first film (and, for that matter, not even considering Peter Graves for the role) destroyed this movie series.
Well, one could argue that the original IMF team never really had any characters in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I love the original Mission: Impossible (and wait for a price drop of the DVD sets to finally rewatch it), but apart from a few things about Rollin Hand, Cinnamon Carter or Barney Collier we never got anything that let them be more than just faceless agents.
 
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Yeah, but they CHOSE to use one and then destroyed him for no good reason. Someone a LOT of us during the cold-war years thought MIGHT be out there to protect us.

Maybe you have to be of a certain age to get that. Hard to say.
 
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Yeah, but they CHOSE to use one and then destroyed him for no good reason. Someone a LOT of us during the cold-war years thought MIGHT be out there to protect us.

Maybe you have to be of a certain age to get that. Hard to say.
Yeah, and maybe of a certain nationality, too. :p

But I understand where you are coming from.

BTW, just ordered the first and second season from Amazon. :D
 
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The Phelps thing really didn't bother me that much though I did think that it was quite stupid to do that. I considered it a remake instead of a sequel to the original series.
 
Re: 10 Things Mission Impossible III Can Teach Us About Abrams Star Tr

Yeah, but they CHOSE to use one and then destroyed him for no good reason. Someone a LOT of us during the cold-war years thought MIGHT be out there to protect us.

Maybe you have to be of a certain age to get that. Hard to say.
Yeah, and maybe of a certain nationality, too. :p
I understand and appreciate your point. I speak only from a Midwestern-US sensibilitiy who watched the show with great anticipation weeknights in the mid-70s (yes, "stripped" reruns, but most will get what that means).
BTW, just ordered the first and second season from Amazon. :D
I can't remember ever seeing season 1 with Jim Phelps' predecessor...and I don't care about him the same way I did about the guy who understood that the secretary would disavow his existence before him. It was a thing for those of us of a certain age.

(I feel stupid I've used that phrase so much lately.).
 
Re: 10 Things Mission Impossible III Can Teach Us About Abrams Star Tr

Raping the Phelps character in the first film (and, for that matter, not even considering Peter Graves for the role) destroyed this movie series.
Well, one could argue that the original IMF team never really had any characters in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I love the original Mission: Impossible (and wait for a price drop of the DVD sets to finally rewatch it), but apart from a few things about Rollin Hand, Cinnamon Carter or Barney Collier we never got anything that let them be more than just faceless agents.

Cyphers is exactly how Bruce Geller wanted the IMF to appear. The original M:I was about the con; the manner in which the team defied obstacles in order to trap the villain or get the object. I've always thought the Ocean's 11 remake was more true to Geller's premise than the Cruise movies. It had all the elements of M:I: the mission, the gathering/selection of the team, the briefing and the mission training, and, finally, the actual mission with all the twists and complications.
 
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Yeah, but honestly? The true KEY people were meant to remain as such. And they DID though the bulk of the original M:I series.
 
Re: 10 Things Mission Impossible III Can Teach Us About Abrams Star Tr

Yeah, but honestly? The true KEY people were meant to remain as such. And they DID though the bulk of the original M:I series.

Which is what I said. M:I wasn't about the characters. It was about getting the mission accomplished. The tension was derived from the plot and not the character interactions. It was one of the reasons why Nimoy left the series as he felt he didn't really get into who Paris was as a person, but rather was buried in the face masks that Paris wore.
 
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All of which means diddly squat with respect to this thread, since JJ Abrams had nothing to do with the first two films. Anything someone else did implies nothing about what JJ will do with Trek.


Marian
 
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Why do people expect movies based on TV series to be exact carbon copies? If they are, you might as well just stay home and watch the DVD.
 
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You know, I'm suddenly kind of very bored by "Star Trek" in general.

:techman: Voyager is in it's 5th or 6th repeat on Spike TV. Enterprise is now in it's what 3rd or 4th repeat on the Sci-Fi channel.

I've tried to force myself to watch it again and I just cannot. Like you said, wake me up in May.
 
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I guess I was bitching more about how the M:I movie franchise had, in its earliest days, deviated so severely from the series that made the concept interesting to me in the first place. Sorry for the derail! :lol:
 
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