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What if this new Stewart show turns out to be crap or just boring? Then what?
Sight unseen, it's way too early to worry about that. For all we know, it will be great, good, okay, or disappointing.
Like any other work-in-progress.
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What if this new Stewart show turns out to be crap or just boring? Then what?
Stuff from TAS has been incorporated into the live action shows, mostly as Easter eggs. Most fans treat canon as just the parts they like.Memory Alpha quotes someone from CBS as saying the following:
In 2007, CBS Consumer Products' Senior Director of Product Development Paula Block was asked about the topic of Star Trek canon for IDW Publishing's "Focus on... Star Trek" issue:Doesn’t that definition seem to include TAS since it’s been seen on screen? I thought the status of TAS was disputed canonically? Essentially we could define canon as anything that’s been seen on-screen.
'Canon' in the sense that I use it is a very important tool. It only gets muddled when people try to incorporate licensed products into 'canon' – and I know a lot of the fans really like to do that. Sorry, guys – not trying to rain on your parade. There's a lot of bickering about it among fans, but in its purest sense, it's really pretty simple: Canon is Star Trekcontinuity as presented on TV and Movie screens.
Except Star Trek V.
Stuff from TAS has been incorporated into the live action shows, mostly as Easter eggs. Most fans treat canon as just the parts they like.
To be fair, incorporating TAS into the prime continuity would explain a great many things in the TOS period. The rec room holodeck for one and I think hologram communications (on the back of the TOS examples) as well. In a way, making TAS an official part of the continuity actually helps me think about DSC - because I know tribbles aren’t pink and that the Enterprise doesn’t have Windows missing or have the hull be the wrong colour (like it was in some shots). I know that TAS is the same continuity as TOS even though things look different and don’t exactly line up - just like with DSC (and several other examples from TNG and beyond...). Everything is valid and yet simultaneously not valid continuity-wise until a line of dialogue directly addresses it.Stuff from TAS has been incorporated into the live action shows, mostly as Easter eggs. Most fans treat canon as just the parts they like.
To be fair, incorporating TAS into the prime continuity would explain a great many things in the TOS period. The rec room holodeck for one and I think hologram communications (on the back of the TOS examples) as well. In a way, making TAS an official part of the continuity actually helps me think about DSC - because I know tribbles aren’t pink and that the Enterprise doesn’t have Windows missing or have the hull be the wrong colour (like it was in some shots). I know that TAS is the same continuity as TOS even though things look different and don’t exactly line up - just like with DSC (and several other examples from TNG and beyond...). Everything is valid and yet simultaneously not valid continuity-wise until a line of dialogue directly addresses it.
Schrodinger’s canon if you will...
I’ve not seen all of TAS - this is an... interesting fact to come across!Whilst this is true, and TAS has been recanonised, careful...we will get an inflatable starship at seasons end...
I’ve not seen all of TAS - this is an... interesting fact to come across!
But is a blow up ship that much of a stretch from mycelial mushroom spores that magic the ship across space and time? (Vworp) hehe
Mushrooms are capable of forming networks that function like a nervous system, the scientist who was he basis for Stamets has published research on it. Many strains are capable of surviving and even thriving in space. Mostly it’s on spacecraft where a strain that feeds on dead skin cells is known to spread, the Mir gained a smell from it. Some strains can survive in a vacuum and are resistant to radiation, we find some in the upper atmosphere. It’s not inconceivable that a strain could manage to survive in space, maybe feeding on organic matter dumped by ships or comets containing organic matter. It may have even originated from ancient spacecraft from a long dead race and have become widespread over the centuries.Practical Joker.
With the food slots, it’s practically a DSC episode. It’s probably the single biggest influence on DSC tbh. XD
Tbh, a mushroom network is slightly less believeable than inflatable starships. XD
Eh, no...not really.Tbh, a mushroom network is slightly less believeable than inflatable starships. XD
And the "Trek universe" conceit behind this particular species allowing Discovery to travel faster than warp, per "Choose Your Pain" (DSC), is that it exists partly in our "normal" space and partly in a discrete subspace realm, thus bridging the two and forming a natural "intergalactic freeway" system...if one can access and navigate it. It's certainly "out there" but no more so than a great many well-established Trek concepts.Mushrooms are capable of forming networks that function like a nervous system, the scientist who was he basis for Stamets has published research on it. Many strains are capable of surviving and even thriving in space. Mostly it’s on spacecraft where a strain that feeds on dead skin cells is known to spread, the Mir gained a smell from it. Some strains can survive in a vacuum and are resistant to radiation, we find some in the upper atmosphere. It’s not inconceivable that a strain could manage to survive in space, maybe feeding on organic matter dumped by ships or comets containing organic matter. It may have even originated from ancient spacecraft from a long dead race and have become widespread over the centuries.
...while still leaving them conscious and able to talk and move (at least sometimes, for at least part of the way) no less!Is the mycelial network more or less believable than scanning a person, instantly transforming them into a bazillion yottabytes, and then sending them 300 miles via uber-wifi?
About the same.Is the mycelial network more or less believable than scanning a person, instantly transforming them into a bazillion yottabytes, and then sending them 300 miles via uber-wifi?
About the same.
Mushrooms are capable of forming networks that function like a nervous system, the scientist who was he basis for Stamets has published research on it. Many strains are capable of surviving and even thriving in space. Mostly it’s on spacecraft where a strain that feeds on dead skin cells is known to spread, the Mir gained a smell from it. Some strains can survive in a vacuum and are resistant to radiation, we find some in the upper atmosphere. It’s not inconceivable that a strain could manage to survive in space, maybe feeding on organic matter dumped by ships or comets containing organic matter. It may have even originated from ancient spacecraft from a long dead race and have become widespread over the centuries.
Mushrooms are capable of forming networks that function like a nervous system, the scientist who was he basis for Stamets has published research on it. Many strains are capable of surviving and even thriving in space. Mostly it’s on spacecraft where a strain that feeds on dead skin cells is known to spread, the Mir gained a smell from it. Some strains can survive in a vacuum and are resistant to radiation, we find some in the upper atmosphere. It’s not inconceivable that a strain could manage to survive in space, maybe feeding on organic matter dumped by ships or comets containing organic matter. It may have even originated from ancient spacecraft from a long dead race and have become widespread over the centuries.
...because we've never, ever had the concept of trans-dimensional lifeforms crop up in Trek before!The transdimensional roots are th ‘huh ok’ bit.
...because we've never, ever had the concept of trans-dimensional lifeforms crop up in Trek before!
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I don't see the problem with this.Joining every single point in the universe, multiverse even, integral to its very fabric, making the universe ‘alive’ possibly sentient...it’s a big concept that renders so much of Star Trek essentially moot if carried through to logical conclusions. Throw in travelling through it, and it’s really done. Especially with the place in time they chose to set the series.
It makes all life into essentially fleas on the back of a bigger organism.
Great SF story. Maybe. Bad for Trek though, in its various established forms.
It very literally makes the universe essentially smaller.
The galaxy-spanning mushroom network is science for people who think New-age-Hippie-crystal-science is too technical.
I don't see the problem with this.
They're not comparable.
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