‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

[Christopher]

Perhaps more telling would be Abrams NOT backing Orci. That could spell doom for Bad Robot as we know it, yes?

No, because Orci doesn't work for Bad Robot anymore. Five years ago, he and Kurtzman founded their own production company, K/O Paper Products, which was a production partner with Bad Robot on Into Darkness. Bad Robot basically equals J.J. Abrams and Bryan Burk. K/O has done a bunch of stuff that Abrams had nothing to do with, including Hawaii Five-0, Transformers: Prime, Cowboys and Aliens, Sleepy Hollow, Ender's Game, and possibly The Amazing Spider-Man 2, which Kurtzman & Orci cowrote. (Wikipedia lists that as a K/O Paper Products credit, but IMDb doesn't.)

These days, most executive producers have their own production companies, which I think are basically the producers themselves and their immediate staffs. So lots of shows and films are joint productions between multiple companies, which really just means multiple producers working together on a project. For instance, House M.D. was a co-production of Heel & Toe Films (Paul Attanasio & Katie Jacobs), Bad Hat Harry Productions (Bryan Singer), and Shore Z Productions (David Shore) along with NBC Universal Television. The more high-ranking producers on a show, the more vanity cards you'll see in its end credits.

 

[JarodRussell]

It would be hilarious if he took the "Fuck off" attitude to the next level and just ruined the film for everyone out of spite. "It's MY Trek, and I you don't like it, then to hell with you!!!"

 

[BigJake]

^ Well, that second sentence would probably happen, but not by way of the first. In his eyes he'd just be proving the validity of his artistic vision.

 

[shapeshifter]

Ah. Thanks, Chris.

Creating schisms is easy, it would be hilarious if he was given the job and produced a work which caused the Age Of Aquarius to Dawn among the Fanship.

 

[Christopher]

Honestly, making a film for yourself and not caring what the fans think is arguably the best way to make a good film that the fans will love. If you worry too much about pleasing other people, your work won't be as honest or meaningful or courageous as it will be if you just tell the story you feel you have to tell regardless of what anyone else thinks. The biggest mistake fans make is assuming that creators are obligated to do what the fans want. The best stories are those that show us something new, something we didn't realize we wanted until we saw it.

 

[BigJake]

Honestly, making a film for yourself and not caring what the fans think is arguably the best way to make a good film that the fans will love.

Assuming one's ideas are good, yes.

 

[BillJ]

Honestly, making a film for yourself and not caring what the fans think is arguably the best way to make a good film that the fans will love.

Assuming one's ideas are good, yes.

Whose the ultimate arbiter of whether an idea is good or not? Hugo?

 

[HaplessCrewman]

From Slashfilm.com

The real news, however, is that Orci has been lobbying to direct Star Trek 3, which he is also writing with with Patrick McKay and John D. Payne. The report is that JJ Abrams and Bad Robot are in favor of him getting the job, as are David Ellison and Skydance Productions, the chief financiers.

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-trek-3-roberto-orci/#disqus_thread

Were this to happen, Orci's tumultuous relationship with fans would probably go to the next level.

It's almost worth it for that reason alone.

I can't think of a good reason why he shouldn't do it. He's clearly passionate about Trek and has been deeply involved in both films.

Agree completely.

I don't know what would be more entertaining - a really great trek film from him or a complete train wreck and the attendant fan outrage.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I think even a great movie will spur enough fanrage from some quarters to keep the BBS busy for awhile.

 

[HaplessCrewman]

I think even a great movie will spur enough fanrage from some quarters to keep the BBS busy for awhile.

I'd say that'd be a foregone conclusion.

I would love a Trek directed by Bryan Singer. Hopefully the troubles he is caught up in right now will be resolved by the time a decision needs to be made. Paramount is on a pretty tight timetable.

 

[BigJake]

^ I'm trying not to hope one way or another about Bryan Singer's troubles, since there's no way of knowing the truth. Even if it is resolved, it looks to me like he would have wayyy too much on his plate.

 

[Hober Mallow]

I didn't like his truther bullshit in a Trek, so having him possibly direct only crushes whatever optimism I had for TREK 3.

"Truther" bullshit?

 

[BigJake]

^ Orci is a known "9/11 Truther," a conspiracy theorist about the 9/11 attacks. (You know, "9/11 was an inside job," that sort of thing.) Some people see his Trutherism as being hinted at in STID's conspiracy-laden storyline.

 

[thumbtack]

Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek. Phaser fire, even on stun, leaves a hole clear through a human torso. Spock says "fuck" about 300 times.

I'd give a week's pay to see that.



.

 

[JarodRussell]

Honestly, making a film for yourself and not caring what the fans think is arguably the best way to make a good film that the fans will love. If you worry too much about pleasing other people, your work won't be as honest or meaningful or courageous as it will be if you just tell the story you feel you have to tell regardless of what anyone else thinks. The biggest mistake fans make is assuming that creators are obligated to do what the fans want. The best stories are those that show us something new, something we didn't realize we wanted until we saw it.

That's what Uwe Boll does all the time.

 

[BigJake]

That's what Uwe Boll does all the time.

A zing, and also a burn.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

^ Orci is a known "9/11 Truther," a conspiracy theorist about the 9/11 attacks. (You know, "9/11 was an inside job," that sort of thing.) Some people see his Trutherism as being hinted at in STID's conspiracy-laden storyline.

I'd say a little more than hinted at, given that the film ends with a dedication to 9/11 victims in the credits.

 

[Hober Mallow]

^ Orci is a known "9/11 Truther," a conspiracy theorist about the 9/11 attacks.

Oh, sweet Jesus...

 

[BigJake]

^ Yeah. There's good reason why a lot of people are not very sympathetic to Orci.

 

[Amaris]

I'm skeptical. Orci doesn't have a single directing credit on his rap sheet. I certainly wouldn't trust a novice first-time director on a high budget franchise, regardless of his success in producing or writing.

I don't know, while I agree about a first time Director taking on such a big budget, high profile project, if J.J. has confidence in him, maybe he's up to the challenge.