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I'm not totally opposed to adding extra subtle details to the TOS Enterprise either, using that line of thinking. Just so long as nobody tries to TNG-ify it (like adding glowing/blue warp nacelles). But I mostly just wanted to point out to Ray that we did in fact see the port side on TOS. The...

Well, we DID see the port side in TOS a couple of times. Most notably in "Shore Leave"... ...and the port side of the Mirror Enterprise (which was identical) in "Mirror, Mirror:" No hatch! It would be weird for there to be an asymmetrical hatch on the TOS Enterprise, anyway. If there is one...

No Star Wars references on here, sir! No matter how awesome they are! I can only imagine the fanboy flak you'll get for that... Warped9, you haven't been missing anything by not watching TNG for 17 years. ;)

The TOS Enterprise provides the basis for ALL our accepted TOS starship design aesthetics, from the bridge to the nacelles. Using it as an example in this case is perfectly valid. :)

Umm...the TOS Enterprise? :wtf:

Well, they certainly "bend" the rules a bit! ;)

^^ Hahahahaha...

Well, exactly. And practicality is part of the TOS aesthetic - a clean, spartan, simplistic, functional, and eminently practical aesthetic that shows up in a lot of TOS designs. Bendy pylons are totally contrary to TOS design ideals and concepts.

I'm just glad BA is hearing it from someone else. I've tried to tell him that bent-up pylons are (for me) the first "no-no" when making a proper TOS design; TNG ships can have pylons that go every which way (and TMP started it with slanting the pylons back), but TOS should be straight and...

Well, I wouldn't say "a major can of worms" - just a relatively small detail that is nonetheless important in distinguishing your crew. But I understand if it's the only ones available - that doesn't surprise me. STO is one of those stupid things that tries to "rectify" all forms of Star Trek by...

I hope you're able to give them proper badges, because right now they look like Enterprise crewmembers.

^^ That makes sense, since if those shuttles were built as live-action props, they would certainly be smaller. A larger area is easier to animate moving characters in, which is why a lot of the TAS shuttles were so huge. It's kind of funny that you make the TAS shuttles smaller, since one of...

Well then...at least make the nacelles longer. :techman: Have you thought about how you plan on attaching the nacelles? As they are now, they're just kind of "floating" there, and the TAS episode doesn't really make it clear how they're bolted on.

The nacelles should definitely go UNDER the "wings." Putting them on the top and making them that stubby is just giving me nasty flashbacks to ST09. Oh, the horror...

Aw come on, the only reason people hate that episode is because it has kids in it. But they aren't annoying "whiz kids" who save the ship all the time (*coughWesleyCrushercough*), they're just normal kids. Plus, imagine if ATCSL had adult characters instead of children characters; I'll bet the...

I've...done nothing with the BBS? And I've never said that "Spock's Brain" was a bad episode. I actually don't think there is such a thing as a bad TOS episode, since even the weakest ones had redeeming qualities about them. When was the last time you watched "Spock's Brain?" It's really not...

Well, I agree with you about the movies; the fact that they either suck ass or are completely contrary to TOS's spirit or continuity is a known fact. But there's actually a LACK of bad TOS episodes; hell, even "Spock's Brain" isn't that bad if you actually watch it instead of just going by the...

Oops, you moved the nub onto the wrong rim! It lies on the outside rim of the Bridge...right now it's sitting next to the transparent dome. An easy mistake to make, don't worry! You might find pics of the 11-footer as good reference...

I'm glad Tallguy helped out there...your ship will look a LOT more authentically TOS without those dumb bubble/nipples.

My vote? NO FRANZ JOSEPH NIPPLE PHASERS!!! For one thing, they're not canon to TOS - the TOS Enterprise didn't have little phaser nipples on top of the saucer. The dome on the bottom was a dedicated "weapons pod"...and unless you've got another weapons pod on top of the saucer, you're out of...