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Well, Bashir has not been happy for pretty much the 2nd half of DS9 (the Dominion War, basically), and as for 'normal'? does that take into account his genetic engineering? From my POV, and you may well disagree, your rant has nothing to do with actual 'character destruction' (whatever that may...

Characters die. Even favorite ones (Happens to more than one DS9R characters).. But when the storytelling is non-linear (across the publishing line), that does not mean you can't enjoy further stories with them. What other favorite characters were 'killed off in books'? What happened to make...

...that's the basic rule of tie-in fiction 2. If future revealed events show Garak as less-than-saintly.. isn't that pretty much suggested from what *is* known about Garak? I would actually be surprised if he is shown to be a true 'hero' figure in future books... 3. After 2399? there would be...

Seriously, *how* is he destroyed? The character goes through developments years after last seen on screen (and in the alternate Fisrt Splinter timeline). First, even if you don't like the direction - how do these developments affect any previous story about the character? Second, that does not...

For the most part, while I can think of some as mediocre, I can usually find something to like about most Trek novels. When I think of *the worst trek novels I've ever read*, the books have very few (if any) positive points IMO, and there are only a few "select" choices: The Marshak / Culbreath...

Care to share some examples? :)

.. and 17 years later, I found this thread and wondered what were people's current choices for worst Trek books (or maybe most disappointing)?

I love this chart! Good job with the addition of Coda! :beer: Now we just need to add Agents of Influence and Harm's Way to a sort-of 'post-VAN/Seekers' box, aligned with TOS :biggrin:

Finished Harm's Way by @David Mack and moving on to Voice of the Fire by Alan Moore

Loved this book! a return to Vanguard means a return to one of my favorite sagas in all of Trek, and this was a great addition to the larger VAN saga (along with Seekers and Agents of Influence). Also, I know this is probably only me, but the fact that we get more VAN means that the Litverse is...

My list of favorites: TOS Prime Dirctive Spock's World Crucible trilogy The Final Reflection The Case of the Colonist's Corpse The Latter Fire Child of Two Worlds Burning Dreams The Joy Machine Shadows on the Sun Ex Machina Strangers from the Sky Section 31: Cloak TNG Imzadi Q-Squared...

Destiny trilogy Vanguard series Section 31: Disavowed / Control A Singular Destiny Hollow Men Cold Equations trilogy and The Light Fantastic (can I put in Immortal coil as well? :) ) DTI: Watching the Clock The Buried Age Full Circle Crucible trilogy (especially McCoy - though that was just...

My sentiments echo many of those expressed above (by Krupp and others). As mentioned in another Coda thread, there ae many things I would have done (or wished the authors had approached) differently, but I appreciate first and foremost the effort, the skill and the pathos of what we did get...

Perhaps the Q exist in all timelines simultaneously and moved on to the Prime Timeline (i.e. PIC S02)? I would have loved for the Q to "save" all the Litverse characters at the very end (white flash and all..).. perhaps they did :weep:

Agreed, absolutely. I was referring to the terms brought up in Oblivion's Gate as to the Prime Timeline and its stability (vs the "First Splinter" timeline's instability, when taken in-story, of course). Why was the on-screen timeline post-Yesterday's Enterprise a "stable Prime Timeline" and...

...that her mother existed, and that would mean that this universe was preceded by the "militerized" Trek universe.. SO, with that logic, how is *that* universe considered the Prime Timeline? Wouldn't it be a Splinter universe, much like the litverse? Appreciate your feedback and possible...

...remember their First Splinter counterparts (see Data and Lal's last 'conversation', Picard's experience at the end..), which means that they *existed*. That universe had been erased but it's still remembered (see Kira and the Sisko-Prophet's last conversation) Last, I would have loved a sort...

...no information either way as to sales figures or revenue, so I'll slightly amend my statement to reflect my own personal experience.. the Litverse *was Star Trek* for *me*, especially in the last 2 decades. It will always be *that* branch of Trek for me - not canon, not that well-known by...

I choose to focus on the fact that the characters we followed did in fact complete their final mission successfully, and in so doing, saved every other timeline, including the Prime timeline (as the Devidians were getting ready to attack stable timelines..). On the ever-present metatextual...

You've expressed yourself beautifully! I've been wanting to write a version of that myself - differing in details, but practically the same in the sentiment towards the TrekLit continuity of the 2000's-2010's.. (I have an Israeli TrekLit blog - written in Hebrew..)