Gotcha. I mostly concur. I thought the pacing could have been picked up a bit, so the running time should have been a bit shorter, without really affecting the content. But to make it longer, more detailed, gods, no!
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Probably the same reason that V'Ger plowed through Klingon space on the way to Earth. The Klingon Empire just happened to be in the V'Ger cloud's path and so the Empire took some losses as this gigantic alien life form steamrolled across a part of their territory.
As much as it made sense for Starfleet to intercept before the cube reached the Solar System, the Borg may have believed it would be better to take care of the fleet away from any Earthbound defenses.
They found something interesting at Wolf 359, so they went to investigate?
It's not like they're afraid of detours.
Why not, seeing how the Borg wipe out StarFleet's hastily assembled Armada would've been epic to establish how scary "The Borg" could really be.
Back then, they didn't have the budget or technology to make it better.
But with modern 3D CG, that type of battle / scene could be shown in all it's glory.
Sometimes, if you want the audience to empathize with StarFleet and fear "The Borg", you need them to get "Curb Stomped" every now & then.
'Battle of Wolf 359' was that battle.
Here's some Fan Videos of what it could've looked like:
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Those fan videos are textbook examples of not adding anything of value. They're really super-boring, not even above the 50% mark of good fan films. That is the answer to the question why not: because nothing of value would be added. There's a whole lotta, we've seen this all before, the pathetic mark of most fan films, unfortunately.
Those fans' efforts (God, bless them!) illustrate why you don't let the fans run the show, because what you'd get would be the greatest hits on endless repeat. It would be a great way for the audience to be enabled to think, "You've seen one, you've seen 'em all," and stop watching!
By the way, it was established how scary the Borg could be (no quotes needed), because we saw what they did to the fleet. Showing what we can infer must have happened changes that not one whit. They were curb stomped, it was established, we know it happened. It's actually an insult to the audience to posit that they can't grasp that without seeing the entire battle explicitly.
Honestly? The graveyard tells the audience exactly what they needed to know about how the battle went. Sometimes, less is more.
I watched part of the first one. That was just plain bad.
So basically, you just don't want to see another battle, get back to the story as is.
Do the minimal work to convey the end result, good enough.
You have to respect your audiences' time. Everything the above spent 20 minutes splooging out, the graveyard scene told you in seconds.
What do those twenty minutes add to the story? What does it give us besides mindless eye candy? Well, beyond an absolutely soulless looking JP Hansen. It is excess for the sake of excess.
The shark in Jaws is the perfect example of this. The enemy you have in your head that you can’t see is always scarier than the one someone else puts on screen.
The graveyard told me everything I need to know. It showed the danger and underlined the futility. It was already epic both in spite of and because of the limitations.
I like battles, but I also like acting (and yelling with gritted teeth is not acting).
You know, you're putting words in my mouth. I said none of that.
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Example #1:
And just to illustrate my point, one of my favorite episodes (top one or two) of the entirety of Star Trek is "The Doomsday Machine".
Now, that episode is not simply one drawn out battle, because there is a lot of exposition and a lot character interaction. All of it is gold.
However, it does have a great deal of space battle scenes. The space battle develops, and new things happen as the story progresses. It all leads up to Kirk figuring out how to destroy the machine.
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Example #2:
The opening of Star Trek (2009) is one of the most brilliantly conceived and executed sequences of the entire franchise. Lotta space battle goin' on there.
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LDS: "No Small Parts" has a lotta space battle going on, too. Great episode!
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So, you know. Your post here is completely, utterly wrong.
Great examples, but this one did not have enough Enterprises.
It's a small Fan Film.
He most likely doesn't have access to a 3D mesh to make a reasonable looking 3D model of JP Hansen.
So he did what he could.
You got to lighten up on groups with small resources.
It's not like he's a production studio with more resources and access to actors, especially ones of the past.
“Show, not tell” is the cardinal rule.
That it is a fan film has nothing to do with it. It is the idea that you think forcing this stuff into the narratives is somehow a good idea or welcomed by the vast majority of audiences.
I literally laughed out loud!
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