Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"
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I think the year gap is going to matter. She's had a year basically on her own doing her thing by her rules with Book. To then come back into a sttarfleet/military type setup and trusting others is going to be hard. It is also pretty clear she did some things during that year that are going to come by to bite her.
So I don't thnk we are done with the year gap yet.
So where's the scene where the Discovery crew raid Earth's computers to find out what they missed? Would the fate of Pike and Spock be on Earth's computers or did the Federation remnant take that with them when they left?
Burnham: I... I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead. Every single one of them... and not just the men, but the women and the children too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! After what they did to my parents, Tyler and Georgiou, I hate them!
Saru: You must be taken to the brig.
Tilly: Technically captain, as the Federation doesn't exist anymore and all accords and conventions nullified, Michael didn't do anything illegal. Yes, her genocide of the Klingon race would be illegal under Klingon law, but since they're now all dead that doesn't matter anymore.
Saru: ...
Saru: What's wrong, Michael? Where are the Klingons?
Burnham: I... I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead. Every single one of them... and not just the men, but the women and the children too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! After what they did to my parents, Tyler and Georgiou, I hate them!
Saru: You must be taken to the brig.
Tilly: Technically captain, as the Federation doesn't exist anymore and all accords and conventions nullified, Michael didn't do anything illegal. Yes, her genocide of the Klingon race would be illegal under Klingon law, but since they're now all dead that doesn't matter anymore.
Saru: ...
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They're probably going the organic route by mining Trill memories. And they're probably experiencing enough grief as it is before curiosity takes over and prolongs it.
What calculator is this? Also the year should be 3189?
It was the first result that came up when searching for Stardate Calculator. I don't think there should be much difference between different implementations, as it really just takes 1 year = 1000 stardate with the 41000 range corresponding to 2364, TNG Season 1.
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I also assumed the year 3188 was correct because Burnham arrived 1 year earlier and she recorded her log entry during that intervening year.
Captain Ndoye abandons quantum dating to place Discovery from the "23rd to 25th" century time frame! What a great way to reconcile the Discovery aesthetic with TOS! 
Would quantum dating even work? A scanner would show the Discovery is only a few years old. An accurate quantum scan would only work if time travel wasn't involved.Captain Ndoye abandons quantum dating to place Discovery from the "23rd to 25th" century time frame! What a great way to reconcile the Discovery aesthetic with TOS!
That would be carbon dating. Quantum works as the plot requires.
"Even if you could get back, they'd think you were something that fell out of a tree."
*thump sounds*
OK............
Housed in a dilithium crystal converter assembly, the crystals were used as a power source as well as a regulator.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dilithium
The one thing I didn't like about DSC (besides the Klingons not having hair in the first season) was the stardates. Even TOS stardates weren't as random as DSC's were in the first two seasons. I'm glad now that they're in The Future, they're going with the TNG system and that the stardates make sense again. It's better than the TOS system or the Kelvin system (which didn't even try to hide how Western-culture and Earth-centric it was).
I was Team Burnham for Captain, but this episode -- and the previous one -- really showed that Saru really should be the one who's Captain. And not just because he was next-in-line. He held firm when he had to, was flexible when he had to be, and was about about doing things the Starfleet Way and upholding Starfleet Principles. Whereas Burnham seems to be in a different place now.
It'll be interesting to see where things go with Burnham. Book's not on Discovery, but it's clear he's going to be around. So I wonder what they'll do to keep him in future episodes. Maybe -- speculation only -- Saru figures they need someone who can be their guide.
Before someone says it, I'm going to cut them off at the pass. Book is cooler than Neelix. He's not like Neelix. Book is Book. He kicks ass and takes names. He's the guide Janeway wishes she could've had.
It'll be interesting to see where things go with Burnham. Book's not on Discovery, but it's clear he's going to be around. So I wonder what they'll do to keep him in future episodes. Maybe -- speculation only -- Saru figures they need someone who can be their guide.
Before someone says it, I'm going to cut them off at the pass. Book is cooler than Neelix. He's not like Neelix. Book is Book. He kicks ass and takes names. He's the guide Janeway wishes she could've had.
First the obvious spec fodder. Is Dax?
Her knowledge of 23rd century starships probably can’t from her previous hosts direct experience.
I liked the episode. There is a bit of a hole that Discovery just casually dropped “We have this means of FTL travel that doesn’t need dilithium” and nobody else seemed to ask any follow up questions.
I hope Adira doesn’t turn into a Leslie Crusher. She is dangerously close.
Her knowledge of 23rd century starships probably can’t from her previous hosts direct experience.
I liked the episode. There is a bit of a hole that Discovery just casually dropped “We have this means of FTL travel that doesn’t need dilithium” and nobody else seemed to ask any follow up questions.
I hope Adira doesn’t turn into a Leslie Crusher. She is dangerously close.
And Saru has to feel pissed that he's saddled with Mirror-Georgiou, rather than the one who changed his life in incalculable ways.
^^^Book isn't irritating like Neelix.
Seems like sloppy writing to me, but, there should have been a Fed databank left behind on Earth when the Feds pulled out and the EDF should have made it available to Discovery once Disc's intentions were proved genuine. Would have filled in Fed history up until Starfleet left Earth.
Of course, Flag Guy's space station should also have such a databank, so there's a mysterious lack of available information for our intrepid crew.
Sure sounds more and more like The Burn and the preceding dilithium shortage were deliberate. Wonder if Odo died and The Founders took another swing. Sounds right up their alley.
It makes sense that Earth should isolate once the Federation is gone. Rome went from over a million people to less than 200,000 in the centuries after the Western Empire collapsed. Went from Center of the World to just not that important (except to Catholics). What Discovery is seeking now is essentially Space Constantinople (the surviving Eastern Empire capitol).
I don't believe that Adira's symbiote is really Dax but wouldn't be surprised if we meet Dax on Trill.
So far, so good. But I'm thinking more SeaQuest 2032 than Andromeda at this point. Maybe a mix of the two.
Seems like sloppy writing to me, but, there should have been a Fed databank left behind on Earth when the Feds pulled out and the EDF should have made it available to Discovery once Disc's intentions were proved genuine. Would have filled in Fed history up until Starfleet left Earth.
Of course, Flag Guy's space station should also have such a databank, so there's a mysterious lack of available information for our intrepid crew.
Sure sounds more and more like The Burn and the preceding dilithium shortage were deliberate. Wonder if Odo died and The Founders took another swing. Sounds right up their alley.
It makes sense that Earth should isolate once the Federation is gone. Rome went from over a million people to less than 200,000 in the centuries after the Western Empire collapsed. Went from Center of the World to just not that important (except to Catholics). What Discovery is seeking now is essentially Space Constantinople (the surviving Eastern Empire capitol).
I don't believe that Adira's symbiote is really Dax but wouldn't be surprised if we meet Dax on Trill.
So far, so good. But I'm thinking more SeaQuest 2032 than Andromeda at this point. Maybe a mix of the two.
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