Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x02 - "Envoys"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Aug 12, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - It was everything I wished for.

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  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  10. 1 - I dream of better Trek.

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  1. Michael

    Michael Good Bad Influence Moderator

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    IMHO, even if Discovery did a good job on their Andorians, the best Andorian makeup design is still the one from Enterprise. Can't beat moving antennae and Jeff Combs.

    EDIT: The worst is the one we saw on The Next Generation, by the way.
     
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  2. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That scene looks like a clear reference to the poker games in TNG. The doc is even wearing the shades like Data wore.
     
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  3. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    With conveniently hidden pins it's hard to say XD
     
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  4. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    regarding the Andorian makeup, there a BTS picture from Picard where they have a picture of the DSC Andorian makeup pinned up in the makeup area, so they might have been considering it.

    DSC Season 3 is still using the Season 1 and 2 makeup, we can see it in the trailers.
     
  5. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    How meta. ;)
     
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  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    "A Private Little War"
     
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  7. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    It actually goes all the way back to "Emissary" when Kira referred to DS9 as a "god-forsaken station".
     
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  8. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Which is weird, because it wasn’t an issue he created.
     
  9. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think it depends on the episode. Kirk certainly demonstrated a capability of being self-reflective and humble, at times. I think one of the better moments was in "Conscience of the King" were McCoy challenges his pursuit of Karidan as being motivated by revenge and not justice. But, Kirk more often than not was more than able to swagger off to the next adventure with a smile so yeah him being humble was a rare treat.

    And, I think that comes with his years of experience and dealing with some serious traumas. Mariner has obviously not dealt with them. I mean, I see a lot of Kirk traits in Mariner that are just unrestrained at this point because Mariner has to push everything away in an effort to protect herself from past issues and pains.

    Reminds me of Kirk from ST 09 strangely.
     
  10. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Um...no...Blame DS9 - because I guess you don't realize the show is set AFTER Bashir revealed the existence of Section 31 to Starfleet in general. It's 2380 - One year after the events of Star Trek Nemesis. (BTW - In ENT, Reed pretty quickly revealed the existence of Section 31 to Archer when pressed - and Harris (the then head of Section 31) had no issue revealing himself of the organization to Archer directly; and cited Section 31 of the Starfleet charter.)


    ST: D's S2 episode - "If Memory Serves" would disagree with you. ;)
     
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  11. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It was never shown or hinted at that he completely exposed them.
     
  12. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I see no reason to assume he didn't.
     
  13. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    Boimler. His name is Boimler.

    If you don't learn Boimler's name because Boimler's name is peppered all over this thread, then you're not learning Boimler's name on purpose. That's a shitty shtick, but stick with the shtick if you wish.

    Boimler.
     
  14. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

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    The title of ep 3 is "Temporal Edict", so the screenshot of Mariner wearing gold and playing cards with the senior staff might be an alternate timeline?
     
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  15. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    That or I have a brain tumor that's pressing on the language center if my brain meaning spelling and remembering words is a challenge for me and it's an unusual, uncommon, name that I've never seen before so it's going to come out how it's going to come out.
     
  16. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Admiral Moderator

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    That would be great! I enjoy seeing main characters is department colors different from their usual one. And alternate timelines.
     
  17. Trekker4747

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    I speak of things specifically called "love letters" like the series finale of Enterprise.
     
  18. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    But he regretted the need to contribute to and escalate it.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    That was a called a "Valentine to the fans."
     
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  20. Ometiklan

    Ometiklan Captain Captain

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    So anyone have any ideas on what the Janeway Protocol might be?


    Uh, that makes no sense. First of all, of course I know that LDS is set after DS9. Second, how can you blame DS9? I guess you don't realize that ENT and DIS were filmed after DS9?