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The Great Chronological Run-Through

As for Eminiar VII and Vendikar and their virtual war, it's an interesting idea. Recalling some of the logical protests made against the Beta III situation, it does perhaps seem unlikely that this degree of cultural conformity and acceptance could exist, that at least a sizable minority wouldn't rebel against the idea of marching into suicide booths or seeing family members do so. That cultural expectation would surely spark civil unrest and violence and so defeat the entire purpose of a clean and culturally non-disruptive approach. I'm aware that many civilizations accept all manner of norms that seem completely to disregard any stability or protection for the individual, but still, this seems rather excessive and difficult to accept.

But what was the alternative? If either side didn't play by the rules, they'd call down real retaliation that would devastate their world. They accepted the status quo out of fear of annihilation. It was a Cold War allegory.

Anyway, given that their surnames are numbers, that suggests a fairly regimented mindset to begin with.

Fair point! I didn't live through the Cold War, so I can't speak to how that situation affects a culture or those within it, but I have my suspicions of certain areas where I think it's left scars on the cultural mentalities, so to speak, of nations who were principally involved. I may be totally off-target, of course. But I guess that's the point. Maybe someone like me could never quite understand.

I wonder if the Eminiar naming convention was established prior to the war or if they've developed to be even more orderly and conformist in accordance with the requirements of the treaty? Are the various numerical incidences of a name living simultaneously? Do they even share an identity to minimalize the sense of loss? That might be interesting. Mea 3 might die, but there are still several Mea remaining, so it softens the blow.

and they never actually "appear", but tri-cobalt explosive devices. Vendikar uses a virtual one to take down the Enterprise.
Sounds like an ad slogan. "Regular nukes not getting the job done? Try cobalt explosive devices!"

Seven of Nine would have traced the conspiracy back to Eminiar eventually.
 
and they never actually "appear", but tri-cobalt explosive devices. Vendikar uses a virtual one to take down the Enterprise.
Sounds like an ad slogan. "Regular nukes not getting the job done? Try cobalt explosive devices!"

Seven of Nine would have traced the conspiracy back to Eminiar eventually.

"The Eminians: a regimented society that uses numerical designations to refer to its citizens. Coincidence? Or a calculated plot designed to bring their society closer to the Borg and influence the life of Seven of Nine? Improbable as it may sound, I've found compelling evidence to support my theory."
 
Sounds like an ad slogan. "Regular nukes not getting the job done? Try cobalt explosive devices!"

Seven of Nine would have traced the conspiracy back to Eminiar eventually.

"The Eminians: a regimented society that uses numerical designations to refer to its citizens. Coincidence? Or a calculated plot designed to bring their society closer to the Borg and influence the life of Seven of Nine? Improbable as it may sound, I've found compelling evidence to support my theory."

Eminiar VII. Anan 7. How could we have been so blind?
 
For the record, David Mack's TNG novel A Time to Kill (2004) established that the incident at Eminiar VII led by the year 2379 to the first known amendment to the Articles of the Federation, commonly referred to as the "Eminiar Amendment," which bans the Federation government from destroying a planetary surface. So apparently Kirk's actions were not without controversy in the UFP and eventually led to a constitutional amendment!
 
For the record, David Mack's TNG novel A Time to Kill (2004) established that the incident at Eminiar VII led by the year 2379 to the first known amendment to the Articles of the Federation, commonly referred to as the "Eminiar Amendment," which bans the Federation government from destroying a planetary surface. So apparently Kirk's actions were not without controversy in the UFP and eventually led to a constitutional amendment!

I'd forgotten that. :) Also, the incident is mentioned in A Time for War/A Time for Peace, I think, in which Scotty essentially says that it was the most difficult order he'd ever grasped with, that he "nearly fell out of his chair". I'll have to have a look later and confirm.

In DS9, the Replimat and other places are always advertising holidays on Eminiar VII, so between that and the starbase it seems the planet made it through to the 24th Century in relatively good shape.
 
Thanks a lot for this thread, Deranged Nasat! I actually had a similar goal, namely to experience the whole of Star Trek in chronological order, ever since I saw that series chronology posted somewhere.
I haven't gotten too far yet (I'm near the end of ENT), but recently picked up my thread again. I had started out with the Eugenics Wars, but appreciate your reasoning for placing it later. I also appreciate the insights and summaries posted in this thread. Hope this stays and is backed up regularly.
 
Alas Deranged Nasat abandoned this project and the board some time ago. I don't imagine this thread will ever proceed.
 
Until and unless he comes back, at least. (I'll admit that I've had the occasional temptation to pick the project up myself just for the sake of keeping things going, but I figured that'd probably be a little gauche of me.)
 
^ Hear, hear.
This was a wonderful project, if only we could reach out to him through the murky ambiguity of the internet.
 
More important than if he ever returns or if this very insightful and interesting project is ever continued, I hope that he finds real happiness, truth, and peace in life.

He would need to be happy with himself and not have such a twisted world view before that happens.

if only we could reach out to him through the murky ambiguity of the internet.

If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could contact him on here.
 
I think this has gone far enough for discussing Deranged Nasat as a person. Let's get back to the thread.

And since the threads exist outside of the person who started them, and since Nasat isn't currently posting I see no reason why one of you or lots of you shouldn't continue it. No reason why it has to be a single voice.
 
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