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Why did Star Fleet not send Voyager a Defiant Class Starship?

You know that Janeway could have built her own defiant class ship if she really really wanted one.

Set up a base, piece together an industrial replicator, mine the shit out of an asteroid belt.

Hell if The Resistance in the Mirror Universe could make one while being hunted by the Alliance, at the very least, Janeway should have had a small fleet of Delta Fliers, at least 15 under her command, even if that would have made the show look too much like BSG.

Why don't they use their transporter to mine? They did that back in Archer's days in the Delphic expanse, didn't they? It should be much easier in Janeway's time.
 
You had me up to security risk.

"Cultural Contamination" described abstractly by the hints towards what the Prime Directive might actually be, covers the dissemination of privileged technology to foreigners too.
Eh. It seems to me that about half of the Prime Directive's concern is about enlightened ideals about cultural contamination, but the other half is about not creating another spacefaring and warmongering medieval species like the Klingons became when left with the tech of their former conquerors. So, again, security risk - as demonstrated by what was done with those replicators you point out that Janeway handed out. But I do agree about marooning her. Or SPACING her. :evil: ;)
 
That's what would happen if the Star Trek universe was written by 24 writers.

Oh wait, it was. :)

Ordering your own people to commit suicide to prevent vague speculative security risks would be too morally abhorrent for the Star Trek universe. This isn't a case of a man trapped behind enemy lines who has knowledge that could cripple the cause, this is vague fear that something bad might occur in the future if things go wrong. It does beg the question though, Janeway attempted to self destruct the ship in Basics when it was about to get captured, but nobody made any attempt to do so in Displaced or any other case where the ship was at risk of capture.

I suppose Starfleet would trust that she do her duty and set the ship to self destruct if it's going to be captured, even if that trust is severely misplaced. :)

If Starfleet was the sort of organization that would give those orders based on vague future risks, they might be more realistic, but they wouldn't be worth rooting for.
 
Wouldn't a ship have been too large? I thought it was a micro wormhole or something. Been a while since I watched that episode.
 
Wouldn't a ship have been too large? I thought it was a micro wormhole or something. Been a while since I watched that episode.
It was some sort of spacial fold. The entire ship would have been able to come through, but there would have been deadly radiation that would have killed the crew preventing Voyager from traveling through. But the Federation could have sent them supplies on a shuttle or extra ship on auto pilot.

I can understand why a ship wasn't sent through, as that would break the show; but the writers/producers could still have sent a few shuttles with supplies & weapons...

...and perhaps real, grown, fresh coffee & a fatted calf to please "The Janeway."
 
Wouldn't a ship have been too large? I thought it was a micro wormhole or something. Been a while since I watched that episode.
It was some sort of spacial fold. The entire ship would have been able to come through, but there would have been deadly radiation that would have killed the crew preventing Voyager from traveling through. But the Federation could have sent them supplies on a shuttle or extra ship on auto pilot.

I can understand why a ship wasn't sent through, as that would break the show; but the writers/producers could still have sent a few shuttles with supplies & weapons...

...and perhaps real, grown, fresh coffee & a fatted calf to please "The Janeway."

I don't know. If the radiations are deadly to people, chances are they are not too good for the food either. Usually when something is deadly it's because it plays havoc with our molecular structure.
 
Wouldn't a ship have been too large? I thought it was a micro wormhole or something. Been a while since I watched that episode.

It's a question about finding a transporter buffer large enough to stick a ship in... But once you've converted the ship to energy, it's can transport through as tiny a hole as a single person, but it might take a little longer until it's all the way through and reassembled on the other side, but not that much longer really if everything is happening at close to (or/and much faster than) light speed.

The micro worm hole died the next day in the episode eye of the needle.
 
Wouldn't a ship have been too large? I thought it was a micro wormhole or something. Been a while since I watched that episode.

It's a question about finding a transporter buffer large enough to stick a ship in... But once you've converted the ship to energy, it's can transport through as tiny a hole as a single person, but it might take a little longer until it's all the way through and reassembled on the other side, but not that much longer really if everything is happening at close to (or/and much faster than) light speed.

The micro worm hole died the next day in the episode eye of the needle.

The dinosaur people, beamed Voyager all at once with the transporter of their city-ship. Too bad Chakotay had to antagonize them... Otherwise they might have helped.
 
You're thinking they'd send a Defiant Class, and honestly, I'm more surprised that they didn't send them an evacuate and self-destruct order. If I were Starfleet, I would consider a relatively low powered but brand new starship with cutting edge technology like Voyager being stuck out among a bunch of unknown civilizations that might get their hands on her and study what the Federation has, with no way to send supporting firepower and no way to bring it home or even try to recover her wreck should she get heavily damaged, to be a MASSIVE security risk.


You're forgetting that Voyager was captured twice (once by the Kazon and then by the Hirogen) and boarded a couple of times (the aliens in "Scientific Method" and then the aliens in "Counterpoint" and Janeway's love roaming the ship). In the Kazon's case we know that they were "flooding sub space" with the announcement of Voyager's capture. And I wouldn't be surprised if Cullah somehow managed to make copies of at least Voyagers blueprints (not to mention the Kazon already had plans for whatever technology Seska had transmitted to them and even asked Jonas to transmit).
 
Which episode was his all anyway? Was it seventh season? Because I had issues watching the seventh season due to UPN switching from analog to digital satellite (their feed kept changing channels and times). Had similar issues with Enterprise, but they were more stable by then.
 
Which episode was his all anyway? Was it seventh season? Because I had issues watching the seventh season due to UPN switching from analog to digital satellite (their feed kept changing channels and times). Had similar issues with Enterprise, but they were more stable by then.


"Inside Man" aired on November 8, 2000. And the Ferengi were trying to acquire Seven's Borg nano probes and didn't care if the geodesic fold killed the crew.

I didn't see this episode till over a year later (might've even been as late as 2007 when I bought the Season 7 DVD) as the station in my area that aired voyager, while they had aired Season's 4-6 on Saturday evenings, started airing the entire series in September 2000 5 nights a week. As a result the station didn't air Season 7 til all the episodes had aired. So every time "Unimatrix Zero Part 1" aired, you hoped that Part 2 and the rest of Season 7 would air, but the next episode would be "Caretaker Part 1".
 
Ordering your own people to commit suicide to prevent vague speculative security risks would be too morally abhorrent for the Star Trek universe.
Probably true. Good thing I didn't say anything about committing suicide. The destruction of the ship doesn't have to mean the death of the crew, you know. See also: Star Trek III, Star Trek: First Contact. :p
You're forgetting that Voyager was captured twice (once by the Kazon and then by the Hirogen) and boarded a couple of times (the aliens in "Scientific Method" and then the aliens in "Counterpoint" and Janeway's love roaming the ship).
Why do you think I've forgotten anything? Heck, it's like you're making my point for me, only Janeway should have had the sense to do it sooner. Or to have set course at maximum warp that the Kazon couldn't have kept up with and kept at it until they were out of the rearview mirror. ;)
 
How many dozens of fingers would have to be cut off before Janeway gave an infamous weapons designer culpable of mass genocide, access to their transporter to perfect his weapon of massdestruction?
 
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