I think so, but I'm pretty far behind on SCE. I wouldn't mind some of the other non-SCE ebooks getting collected. Maybe a 23rd century collection or a 24th century collection..
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I think so, but I'm pretty far behind on SCE. I wouldn't mind some of the other non-SCE ebooks getting collected. Maybe a 23rd century collection or a 24th century collection..
Well, it's splitting hairs, but technically everything published under the SCE banner has been collected; what remains uncollected in print form are the eight stories originally published under the relaunched Corps of Engineers banner, as well as the TNG Slings and Arrows miniseries, and of course all the new standalone e-novellas published in the last few years.
Unfortunately, the authors have posted here to say their unpublished nuTrek novels have been Jossed by Into Darkness.
I'd still like them to be released as Myriad Universes e-books one day, although it's a pipe dream. And I'd LOVE new novels set in the Abramsverse, which may happen one day.
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It does nothing of the sort. The books are a tiny, tiny sidebar of the franchise. Authenticity in a franchise comes from the creators of the core canon, the ones responsible for defining and shaping the universe. Tie-in novels are just speculations building on what the core creators have established. Any legitimacy or authenticity our books have comes from their adherence the canonical source, not the other way around.
Besides, there are certainly other tie-ins to the Abramsverse. There is an ongoing monthly comic being written by an employee of the Kurtzman/Orci production company and vetted by Roberto Orci himself (at least nominally). There was the Starfleet Academy series of young-adult tie-in novels, which ran for four installments, equal in number to the ones that were cancelled. There was a tie-in comic story published in Wired magazine. There was a tie-in computer game, though it didn't do very well, I gather. And the first film had plenty of toy and merchandise tie-ins, more so than any Trek movie since ST:TMP in 1979.
So there's been no shortage of tie-in promotion for the Abramsverse, at least not for the first movie. It's just that the chosen emphasis for the tie-ins has gone in a different direction than we're used to, and the mass-market paperback novels that are such a longstanding part of the tie-ins for the original Trek universe ended up not being a part of the tie-in efforts for the Abrams universe. (Or maybe now we should call it the Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman universe -- the AOK Universe?)
Exactly. The new movies are as "authentic" and "really Trek" as any of the other shows or movies.
They certainly don't need books to validate them.
Interesting line up. I'm almost caught up with the modern 24th Century books, so maybe I can read these as they come out now.
Seeing as how Kurtzman isn't involved with the third movie, and that would leave out Damon Lindelof and the new writers on 3, I think that calling it the "Bad Robot universe" seems to be the best compromise for now.
I was thinking more of production companies than writers, since Orci & Kurtzman spun off their own separate production company from Bad Robot several years ago. I'd forgotten that O & K had gone their separate ways where their movie careers are concerned.
But, see, this is exactly why I'd like to find a different name than "Abramsverse," one that isn't so attached to a specific person. The people involved can change over time.
Even if neither are involved anymore, the current Pocket novel continuity will always be the Marcokradiverse to me.
I think "Abramsverse" is fine, because he's at least the originator. It's once you start tacking other names on that I think it needs to go the more generic/corporate route.
Even if neither are involved anymore, the current Pocket novel continuity will always be the Marcokradiverse to me.
As opposed to the Bantamverse, or the HartwellPanitchRyanOrdoverClarkSchlesingerverse?
(Yes, I know I left a few Pocket editors out of there. It's late and my memory is fading.)
I don't think any Bantam books are part of the continuity; Schlesigner wasn't working on Trek at the time; Hartwell, Pantich, Ryan, and Clark's* works were included retroactively and not by design at the time of authoring; and... well, I don't have any good excuse for Ordover. It just always seemed like Marco & KRAD were the driving force behind the shared continuity, and John's books got swept up in the tide.Even if neither are involved anymore, the current Pocket novel continuity will always be the Marcokradiverse to me.
As opposed to the Bantamverse, or the HartwellPanitchRyanOrdoverClarkSchlesingerverse?
(Yes, I know I left a few Pocket editors out of there. It's late and my memory is fading.)
*Yes, Clark's later works joined the continuity by design. But as far as I'm aware, Millennium is the only work she oversaw that joined the continuity prior to Marco's departure.
Schlesigner wasn't working on Trek at the time;Even if neither are involved anymore, the current Pocket novel continuity will always be the Marcokradiverse to me.
As opposed to the Bantamverse, or the HartwellPanitchRyanOrdoverClarkSchlesingerverse?
(Yes, I know I left a few Pocket editors out of there. It's late and my memory is fading.)
Are you sure about that? Ed edited my third Khan book as far back as 2004. He's been editing Trek books for at least a decade now . . ..
Now that you mention it: I'm not.
However, Avatar debuted in May 2003, so in the absence of earlier books that he worked on I'm going to stick with my earlier assertion. 
Even as other people become involved, I think "Abramsverse" works well as an identifier for this universe.
I think Greg was suggesting that there were other novel continuities before the current one. I'm not sure the Bantam books had much of a continuity beyond what existed within each pair of books by the same author; I can't remember any instances of a Bantam novel referencing a term, concept, or event from a different author's novel, and there were some inconsistencies within the run (for instance, several Klingon-focused novels were published despite Blish's definitive disposal of the Klingon Empire in Spock Must Die!).
Then there was the '80s Pocket continuity, which I have the impression was mostly encouraged by Dave Stern. It basically started to emerge in the mid-'80s as novels began referencing elements from other authors' novels, notably The Final Reflection and My Enemy, My Ally, and sort of retroactively folded in many earlier Pocket novels, though by no means all of them. So it came to encompass the work of several editors, though in my view it pretty much trailed off by 1990, so we'd be dealing with editors from before then, about 1981-90. So Hartwell, Panitch, and Stern, basically, although I think Ryan was working as an assistant editor by mid-1989 or thereabouts.
Then there was the '80s Pocket continuity, which I have the impression was mostly encouraged by Dave Stern. It basically started to emerge in the mid-'80s as novels began referencing elements from other authors' novels, notably The Final Reflection and My Enemy, My Ally, and sort of retroactively folded in many earlier Pocket novels, though by no means all of them. So it came to encompass the work of several editors, though in my view it pretty much trailed off by 1990, so we'd be dealing with editors from before then, about 1981-90. So Hartwell, Panitch, and Stern, basically, although I think Ryan was working as an assistant editor by mid-1989 or thereabouts.
All I know is that the due dates for the two manuscripts are 10 months apart, and Uncertain Logic is the April 2015 book. Which would suggest it's unlikely that Book 4 would arrive before the end of 2015. My guess would be sometime very early in '16. (Great Godfrey, how did it get to be the twenty-teens already??)
