...it would have been wicked cool, but, Dude, you totally needed to pick up that cat...you would have been an Instant Legend to some on this Board!...thanks for the post...do another one and pick up the cat!
THEY LANDED THE WHOLE SHIP!
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...it would have been wicked cool, but, Dude, you totally needed to pick up that cat...you would have been an Instant Legend to some on this Board!...thanks for the post...do another one and pick up the cat!
I can see why they would need to land the ship on occasion. Difficulty in using transporters and an atmosphere that would make it difficult for shuttles to land. Taking the ship to a land based starbase for repairs. To hide the ship. To conduct emergency repairs that would be difficult in space.
Trouble with landing Voyager is the ship has to be powered up the whole time to keep the gravity repulsor things going- turn them off and the ship will drop on it's keel. Those tiny support struts cannot support it's weight. It was cool seeing it on the surface in 'Nightingale' having it's warp coils being replaced, but aside from major service why land? Come to think of it, the warp coils would be easier to replace without any gravity to deal with...
Interestingly, the concept to land a Federation starship applied for the 22nd Century, that much is obvious from the opening dialogue in "A Piece of the Action".
However, both the USS Horizon and the USS Essex (in "Powerplay") were apparently somehow destroyed in their take-off phases. So one might think the Federation eventually abandoned this concept, but in VOY we saw kind of a comeback.
What bugs me is the obvious extra need for space and energy to make any ship land. It's redundant (because of transporters and shuttles) and an unnecessary waste of space that could have been put into better use for other and vital ship components.
Bob
However, both the USS Horizon and the USS Essex (in "Powerplay") were apparently somehow destroyed in their take-off phases. So one might think the Federation eventually abandoned this concept, but in VOY we saw kind of a comeback.
What bugs me is the obvious extra need for space and energy to make any ship land. It's redundant (because of transporters and shuttles) and an unnecessary waste of space that could have been put into better use for other and vital ship components.
Bob
It's been mentioned, but I'll repeat it; the landing legs were designed to stabilize the ship on the surface while the impulse system provided the bulk of the suspension in a planet's gravity field. The official name of the legs was GHFS or Ground Hover Footpad System. The legs were not designed to support the entire 750,000 metric tonne ship mass in an Earth-type gravity situation. I never said they weren't capable; some of the writers or producers might have said something back in the day, but they were all provided with the same notes I'm summarizing here.
Rick
Landing Voyager was one of my favorite things done on the show.
Designing the landing gear was a case of doing what I could with what was pretty well set in stone (or fiberglass) with the ship design. During the development of the final design, there were little hints from the writers that they might want to land the thing. No scripts, no synopses, just little verbal teases. Okay, so I included four little split hatches in the only places where the legs could possibly exit, way down near the bottom of the engineering hull. Never got into any real thought about the legs and feet for pretty much the whole first season, and the "The 37s" came along. Telescoping legs and fold-up toes were designed, crammed into the spaces behind the hatches, the CG versions were built and animated, and a set of physical miniature feet were built by Brazil Fabrication (builders of the 5' Voyager miniature) in case they were needed for model shots. They might not have been terribly elegant to some, but I thought they were fine and served the purpose for which they were designed.
Rick
Rick
Here is a screencap from "The 37s". Can't shake the feeling these would also make good docking clamps for containers / payloads the Intrepid Class could transport should the need ever arise. 
Bob
Bob
I love the idea of the ship landing (code blue
) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3XG0Shdhw
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but always wondered about those legs holding up the ship. Of course that makes me wonder how B'Elanna could overhaul the warp engine and do impulse upgrades on the surface of the planet in Nightingale if they need the engines to support the ship.
I just reread the Nightingale teaser and laughed at this part.
JANEWAY: What about the impulse upgrades?
TORRES: The day after tomorrow. Put a new phase compensator on that relay.
JANEWAY: Environmental control?
TORRES: The thermal regulators are still running a little hot. JANEWAY: Too bad we can't just keep our windows open. How long until the warp drive is back online?
TORRES: Six days.
JANEWAY: You're sure you can't get it done any faster?
TORRES: Captain, I don't like sitting still any more than you do, but repairs this extensive take time. (lights go out) Mendez, track down that power drain.
MENDEZ: Right away
JANEWAY: I know this ship has been through a lot, but you told me this would only take a few days.
TORRES: That was before I discovered the micro-fractures in the starboard nacelle and the fused relays in the main computer. (lights come back on) Who did that?
I laughed because I watch a real estate show called "Love it or List it". The realtor David tries to find a new home that will suit the couple's needs and that is within their budget, so they will sell their current place. At the same time designer Hillary tries to redo their current home so the couple will love it again and want to stay.
Of course, no matter what the budget is that Hillary has to do the remodel, as soon as they pull walls down and dig floors up, they find horrible structural problems that have to be addressed and which eat into the remodel budget.
While I listen to B'Elanna list all the problems she's finding and Janeway claim "but you said..." it sounds just like the show when Hillary gives the home owners the bad news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjnyVyrHeBs
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Except with season 7 Janeway there's no suspense with whether she will "love" Voyager or "list"=sell it.
I was just about to post that when you posted it!
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