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The Spiritual Successor of Star Trek

what is Dallas? What is Weyland-Yutani show?

Well, as USS Triumphant indicates, "Dallas" was a long-running serialized show about a family running an oil business, most notably featuring an evil sadistic member of the family known as J. R. Ewing. Perhaps it's known as "Southfork" outside North America.

I find it rather incredible that you intentionally borrow concepts from Alien and Prometheus, yet have no idea what Weyland-Yutani is.

Well, just like I said that I just like the ship design and how they portrait the Alien Race there. I'm not a hard fan of Alien franchise. So I don't bother to research their universe. Plus, Weyland-Yutani is not an exploration company. They are a mega corporation with multi business. While my idea is a bit more of a company who focus on space exploration business. It's more of a privateer than a "Dallas" in space.
 
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It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."

Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

I never would have predicted they'd make a movie about Transformers, let alone Battleship, and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie. With dreck like that being developed, and some of it inexplicably becoming huge hits, why discount reviving the prime timeline? It wouldn't probably be produced in a 90s Berman style, but it could be in the same canonical space.

They're even giving Glen Larson big bucks to exec produce a reboot of BSG, and it will probably turn out more like the 70s show than the Moore version. That's something I doubt anyone expected would happen.

Just be ready to eat your words, even though I don't necessarily expect this to happen in the near future.

It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.

Oh, really?
 
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It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."

Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

I never would have predicted they'd make a movie about Transformers, let alone Battleship, and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie. With dreck like that being developed, and some of it inexplicably becoming huge hits, why discount reviving the prime timeline? It wouldn't probably be produced in a 90s Berman style, but it could be in the same canonical space.

They're even giving Glen Larson big bucks to exec produce a reboot of BSG, and it will probably turn out more like the 70s show than the Moore version. That's something I doubt anyone expected would happen.

Just be ready to eat your words, even though I don't necessarily expect this to happen in the near future.

It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.

Oh, really?

The question is not about Star Trek will ever come back to TV again. But When it will happen. And the word of "When" in here has no limit. 50 years later? So can you wait for that long? or we should seek alternative? If the studio is allergic to create a new Star Trek series, you can only hope for something new.
 
It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."

Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

Funny thing - one of us will be wrong. I'm comfortable working from here, thanks. :)

It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.

Oh, really?
Yes, really. Cute, though.

I always considered seaQuest DSV a spiritual sibling of Star Trek.

I always considered StarGate SG-1 to be a spiritual successor to TOS, and SG-Atlantis as TNG's spiritual successor.

Minus about 25 IQ points.
 
Minus about 25 IQ points.

I'll admit that both TOS and TNG were far more cerebral than the Stargate franchise ever wanted to be, but in terms of that sense of wonder and exploration, Stargate SG-x didn't do too bad. Atlantis could have been so much more, but it wasn't bad if you knew what to expect.
 
I think it stayed true to its roots. I think Star Trek can, too, after ST:09 III comes out, if it goes back to TV and works to fix the timeline. Then you have a great story, and the potential to explore anything, especially some damn good writing.

How does reinstating the Prime Universe bring Star Trek back to its roots roots or lead to good writing?

It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."

The idea of calling Doctor Who "Star Trek's big brother" is a peculiar one, and can be based on nothing more than the fact that DW is a couple of years older than Star Trek. It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.

Exactly. Forbidden Planet was the obvious inspiration for Star Trek, not a British TV show that nobody in America had seen at that point. Remember, this was before PBS reruns and the internet, kids. Doctor Who might as well have been airing on Mars . . . .

And I like to think of Farscape as Trek's wild, black sheep offspring. Assuming Star Trek had sex with Buck Rogers and had a child out of wedlock, that is. :)
 
SeaQuest DSV was so obviously Star Trek-under-the-sea that I half consider Nathan Bridger to be a Trek captain.
 
And I like to think of Farscape as Trek's wild, black sheep offspring. Assuming Star Trek had sex with Buck Rogers and had a child out of wedlock, that is. :)

And assuming they were both tripping at the time. Farscape's awesome.

People who find imaginary parallels between Doctor Who and "Assignment: Earth" are looking at the two shows very selectively and in complete isolation from the rest of the world and particularly television at the time the shows were made. The two shows didn't resemble one another any more closely than either one resembled "I Spy" except for both being in the science fiction genre.

For one thing, Doctor Who was not the show in 1968 that it has become. The Doctor had been portrayed eccentrically by two older character actors, and neither would ever be mistaken for the sort of rugged action-adventure lead who dominated American TV at the time and which "Seven" fit to a "T." And let's take the single specific coincidental similarity between the two shows that everyone points to: Seven's pen device and the "sonic screwdriver."

The screwdriver makes its first appearance in DW in the serial "Fury from the Deep" which was first broadcast beginning on March 16, 1968.

Guess when "Assignment: Earth" was first broadcast?

March 29, 1968.

At the time that the Trek episode was being written, shot, and finished, the sonic screwdriver had never been seen (much less become a staple bit of business). Any supposed "influence" was impossible.

A pretty obvious source of inspiration for this kind of thing, in those days, would have been the various miniature gadgets that were all over the place in the James Bond-derived "super-spy" genre of the 1960s - and, in fact, the heros on The Man From U.N.C.L.E., a hugely popular show on NBC, had been using communications devices disguised as pens for several years. If Roddenberry stole the gag, he most likely stole it from them.
 
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And I like to think of Farscape as Trek's wild, black sheep offspring. Assuming Star Trek had sex with Buck Rogers and had a child out of wedlock, that is. :)

And assuming they were both tripping at the time. Farscape's awesome.

People who find imaginary parallels between Doctor Who and "Assignment: Earth" are looking at the two shows very selectively and in complete isolation from the rest of the world and particularly television at the time the shows were made. The two shows didn't resemble one another any more closely than either one resembled "I Spy" except for both being in the science fiction genre.

For one thing, Doctor Who was not the show in 1968 that it has become. The Doctor had been portrayed eccentrically by two older character actors, and neither would ever be mistaken for the sort of rugged action-adventure lead who dominated American TV at the time and which "Seven" fit to a "T." And let's take the single specific coincidental similarity between the two shows that everyone points to: Seven's pen device and the "sonic screwdriver."

The screwdriver makes its first appearance in DW in the serial "Fury from the Deep" which was first broadcast beginning on March 16, 1968.

Guess when "Assignment: Earth" was first broadcast?

March 29, 1968.

At the time that the Trek episode was being written, shot, and finished, the sonic screwdriver had never been seen (much less become a staple bit of business). Any supposed "influence" was impossible.

A pretty obvious source of inspiration for this kind of thing, in those days, would have been the various miniature gadgets that were all over the place in the James Bond-derived "super-spy" genre of the 1960s - and, in fact, the heros on The Man From U.N.C.L.E., a hugely popular show on NBC, had been using communications devices disguised as pens for several years. If Roddenberry stole the gag, he most likely stole it from them.

Exactly. "Assignment: Earth" owes more to 1960s spy-fi than Doctor Who. Derek Flint in Our Man Flint (1966) also had a multi-purpose gadget disguised as a pen--and that was two years before either the Doctor or Seven.

It's only in hindsight that we can look for accidental parallels between the Doctor and Seven. At the time, there was no connection.
 
I've always assumed that the inspiration for Gary Seven was hinted at in the Seven. ;)

James Bond

I've always thought that there was a heavy dose of The Day The Earth Stood Still in "Assignment: Earth." (The original 1951 movie, of course, not the remake.) Seven looks and acts a lot like Michael Rennie as Klaatu. And they're both emissaries from an advanced alien civilization intent to keeping humanity from destroying itself . . ..

Basically, The Day The Earth Stood Still is to "Assignment: Earth" as Forbidden Planet is to Star Trek.
 
I've always assumed that the inspiration for Gary Seven was hinted at in the Seven. ;)

James Bond

I've always thought that there was a heavy dose of The Day The Earth Stood Still in "Assignment: Earth." (The original 1951 movie, of course, not the remake.) Seven looks and acts a lot like Michael Rennie as Klaatu. And they're both emissaries from an advanced alien civilization intent to keeping humanity from destroying itself . . ..

Basically, The Day The Earth Stood Still is to "Assignment: Earth" as Forbidden Planet is to Star Trek.

That makes a lot of sense. Of course, one main difference being that he's undercover instead of landing in a flying saucer in front of everybody.* Another is that he has a sexy shape-shifting black cat, instead of a giant silver robot that shoots rays out of its eye.

* - Though, Klaatu does go undercover after he's attacked upon landing.
 
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