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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

"He's the patient who broke his Kessel bone in 12 locations."
 
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Yikes.We'll, I guess a lot or scenes will have to be blocked to Han's either sat down or only shown from the waste up. That or they'll write it in somehow by giving him a droid leg like a real space pirate! ;)

The moral of the story is that hell hath no fury like a Corellian freighter jilted by her captain for 40 years! :p
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

^How about neither? ;)

Honestly, at this stage it's not worth putting stock in *any* rumours. Ignorance is bliss and all that. ;)
 
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Agreed. I'd almost prefer not to know at all until I see the movie.
 
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I don't know if anyone has posted this, but the other day one of TheForce.net's writers posted a story saying that he knows with 100% certainty that the reports about the villains in EVII are wrong. He can't say how he knows though, so I guess this just goes down to which site you trust more.

Well not completely wrong. The article was updated to clarify that the basic description of the Empire-style sets and costumes is accurate, and Nyong'o and Driver are still playing "mercenary" type villains, but they simply aren't being called Jedi Hunters and aren't out to restore the Sith like was thought before.

And Latino Review (which is generally regarded as being pretty reliable) is saying the same thing.
 
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Yeah I had hoped that after 5 years or so of mopping up the Empire, they established a lasting peace that runs until the opening scene of the new movie :lol:

Remember; in the Special Edition, Palpatine's statue is knocked down ON CORUSCANT THE DAY HE DIES.

Which suggests the Empire pretty much immediately toppled.

Well considering the first thing Palpatine did in the OT was toss the Imperial Senate (aka the guys he needs to run a galaxy spanning empire) for a bunch of basically feudal style lords, its no surprise things went to crap the moment he croaked considering an war over who gets to run things now was a big possibility.
 
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But that is wrong. Palpatine tossed out the Senate and was able exert direct control through the system of Imperial Governors. There was nothing feudal about the Galactic Empire.
 
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But that is wrong. Palpatine tossed out the Senate and was able exert direct control through the system of Imperial Governors. There was nothing feudal about the Galactic Empire.
Are you using some definition of feudal that's completely contrary to reality? If so, I agree.
 
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But that is wrong. Palpatine tossed out the Senate and was able exert direct control through the system of Imperial Governors. There was nothing feudal about the Galactic Empire.
Are you using some definition of feudal that's completely contrary to reality? If so, I agree.

Do you even know what feudalism is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism

Wikipedia said:
Broadly defined, it was a system for structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.


Protip the Galactic Empire is not feudal in nature.

Imperial Governors = feudal lords.

Not unless the Galactic Empire was largely agricultural in nature or that Vader and Tarkin and the stormtroopers and the governors were exchanging their military service for land tenure rights. You can believe it all you want. But there is nothing in the movies or in the former Expanded Universe to support your idea.
 
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I hope many of these rumors aren't true. Having the Empire still around as a credible threat is fanwanking at its worse. I don't mind the new villains coming from the ashes of what was once the Empire and the Sith but if there is still no peace in the galaxy after 30 years, it renders the original trilogy that JJ Abrams so "loves" completely meaningless and shows he has no real understanding of Star Wars.

Listen, I totally expect major conflict in this trilogy. The name Star Wars alone guarantees it. But locking the heroes into a neverending war after they won their great victory at Endor is wrong. Let there be an established peace that after many years is starting to go straight to hell.

I can't think of anything more unoriginal than having the Empire still run around after 30 years. They might as well have kept the original EU if they were going to recycle garbage like that. Though expecting JJ Abrams to create anything new in his film career is asking too much. His motion picture career has exhibited none of the creativity of his television career (and this is coming from someone who enjoyed his two Star Trek films).
 
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DarthPipes said:
Listen, I totally expect major conflict in this trilogy. The name Star Wars alone guarantees it. But locking the heroes into a neverending war after they won their great victory at Endor is wrong. Let their be an established peace that after many years is starting to go straight to hell.

I think this may derive from Lucas's original ideas for a ST which was about rebuilding the Republic. Which I guess necessitated then that the Republic not be established yet.



planets = land

No they were governors. And the planets were not treated as their personal property. There is no evidence otherwise.
 
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I get that it wouldn't be easy to rebuild after the Empire. If this plotline was five years after ROTJ, I would get it. But 30 years?
 
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If the Republic is not established yet, I certainly hope it's not because they're still at war with the Empire, but because most of the planets simply didn't care to join a vast conglomerate over again. I wouldn't mind the idea of a bunch of smaller states who mostly peacefully co-habitat with each other. Coruscant... Corellia... Hutt Space... Corporate Sector... Banking Clan... Trade Federation... etc.
 
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I get that it wouldn't be easy to rebuild after the Empire. If this plotline was five years after ROTJ, I would get it. But 30 years?

I think the only thing that makes this remotely credible is the sheer size of the galaxy. You likely had governors/military still loyal to the Empire/Palpatine spread out over thousands of light-years.
 
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I hope many of these rumors aren't true. Having the Empire still around as a credible threat is fanwanking at its worse. I don't mind the new villains coming from the ashes of what was once the Empire and the Sith but if there is still no peace in the galaxy after 30 years, it renders the original trilogy that JJ Abrams so "loves" completely meaningless and shows he has no real understanding of Star Wars.

Listen, I totally expect major conflict in this trilogy. The name Star Wars alone guarantees it. But locking the heroes into a neverending war after they won their great victory at Endor is wrong. Let there be an established peace that after many years is starting to go straight to hell.

I can't think of anything more unoriginal than having the Empire still run around after 30 years. They might as well have kept the original EU if they were going to recycle garbage like that. Though expecting JJ Abrams to create anything new in his film career is asking too much. His motion picture career has exhibited none of the creativity of his television career (and this is coming from someone who enjoyed his two Star Trek films).

Well "neverending war" may be overstating the situation a bit much. It could be more that there were small groups and pockets of the Empire that still needed to be dealt with over those 30 years. But certainly nothing on the level of the threat posed by the Emperor and Vader.

Even if there were still other elements to be dealt with afterwards, I don't think any of that would really undermine the huge victory they have at the end of ROTJ.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I don't mind the Empire still existing.
 
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But that is wrong. Palpatine tossed out the Senate and was able exert direct control through the system of Imperial Governors. There was nothing feudal about the Galactic Empire.
Are you using some definition of feudal that's completely contrary to reality? If so, I agree.

Do you even know what feudalism is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
I do. Do you? Maybe you should read over that link yourself. Cause, like Inigo Montoya says, I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Wikipedia said:
Broadly defined, it was a system for structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.
Yep, which is exactly what the Galactic Empire was. Palpatine and his underlings were all about promising power, protection, and wealth in exchange for services and labor from other worlds. With a side of intimidation and threats if they decided otherwise.

Not unless the Galactic Empire was largely agricultural in nature or that Vader and Tarkin and the stormtroopers and the governors were exchanging their military service for land tenure rights. You can believe it all you want. But there is nothing in the movies or in the former Expanded Universe to support your idea.
The Clone Wars animated series is something you might wanna watch. It comes up quite often, actually. Like, almost every episode in fact.

And, seriously, have you never seen any of the movies? Especially the prequels? What the fuck do you think the Trade Federation was all about?
 
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