I'm sorry. I don't mean to be a downer and kill the jovial mood. Some of the comments have just rubbed me the wrong way, as I think you can gather how I feel about fatherhood and the role of a father in my reply to macloudt. I'd ask how you know that teacake loves men so much, but I suspect the answer may only be appropriate for TNZ.
When i was pregnant, and vomiting first thing in the morning, I could hear my husband (now ex-husband) complaining because i wasn't making him breakfast. Didn't help with the housework or take me to the doctor. His idea of being helpful was to go out so I wouldn't have to look after him. He "generously" would allow me to go to bed after I had cooked dinner, put the children to bed and washed-up. He wasn't even at the hospital for any of the births. When I was in labour he told me he would be back when it was all over. All this is why he is my ex-husband.
I think it's a little weird, and yet another example of pretentiousness spouted by yuppie couples, but ultimately harmless.
Flashbacks to a few convos at the wife's obgyn when both our boys. Pushy nurses that was made clear to me that the ObGyn was a "No MAN's land". Didn't matter that it concerned my wife and my kid, I was an intruder; all though one nurse did inform me that she would come and get me if I was wanted or needed. I got asked to sit in hall of the complex once cause the head nurse thought that a man sitting alone in the waiting room would make the other women who were waiting nervous. Thankfully, my wife had my back whenever this shit happened and refused to cooperate with the Doc unless I was allowed to stay.
Oh please.. OH PLEASE Here, have a shiny medal. It's the size of a watermelon, make sure you shove it up your ass for nine months and then push it out so we can take you seriously. Don't forget to vomit regularly. I only love their bodies.
I was once in a bar with a married couple and some other friends. The dude revealed how she was pregnant, at which point she corrected him that they were. Thereafter, most of the crew took to believing that he is fairly pantsless in the relationship.
It's amazing how society takes its little twists and turns. When I was a kid, during the days when society was making an effort to pull the stick out of its ass, one of the big trends was for men to become involved in the woman's pregnancy-- going to classes, being present at delivery, perhaps even taking a hand in delivering the baby. This was a shocking thing. Old-school conservatives would deride such men as weak, silly, and unmanly. And now here we are, fifty years later, in the 21st century, and new-school progressives deride men who do the opposite of what Miss Chicken's ex-husband did as precious, twee, and pantsless. I'm by no means a family man, but I understand the concept of family. I even know people who have made "we are pregnant" or "we've had a new baby" announcements inclusive of their existing children. The "we" means "our family." I wonder how cavalier Mila Kunis would be if whatsisname abandoned her to "her" pregnancy. First of all, there's not many other medical conditions that the man has participated in. Second of all, working in health insurance, I do hear stuff like that all the time: "We've been fighting cancer for two years," for example. Miss Chicken, your ex-husband was an asshole-- he was not the type to say "we're pregnant." "Expecting" is a benign euphemism for "pregnant" from the days when it was considered indelicate to use the word "pregnant" in mixed company. Or are we back to that now, too?
Just imagine if you have cancer and you're in pain every single fucking day. Also puking from the chemo. Also exhausted. Also struggling to get the most basic things done. But me, who you know has to take days off work and watch you suffer through all this says.. "we have cancer". This is just bullshit. Sure it's hard to watch someone in pain and suffering. It takes time and emotional energy to be supportive whether it's cancer or a shitty pregnancy but you DO NOT HAVE IT. You're having a baby if your wife is pregnant. You are not having the pregnancy itself.
I think people are just getting too hung up on the word while ignoring the context. "We're pregnant" has become synonymous with "We're having a baby." It's just a figure of speech and shouldn't be taken so literally.
IT was the man hating accusation. It made me hateful. Also frankly it does feel like a takeover. Only women can be pregnant but men are now like.. oh but I AM PG TOO because you know, I took time off work and that baby is half my DNA. Probs wouldn't feel so strongly about it if it wasn't for farmkid's but what about the menz posts. Yeah it's language evolving, whatever.
Okay, I'm confused. Exactly what decade does this remind you of every morning, then? Also, "Precious, Twee and Pantsless" would make a great title for an autobiography. Marry me, teacake?
Pregnancy is a biological condition and nothing else. It is objectively defined as "carrying developing offspring within the body." That's what pregnancy means.
I find it spectacularly annoying, but I find most things expecting parents say to be annoying so perhaps I'm biased in that regard.
You're right, it is a biological condition, and I'm sure people who say "we're pregnant" are aware of what the word means. I'm also sure sure they are fully aware that the father is not in fact carrying a child inside, and do not expect anyone to take a purposefully imprecise statement statement in as strictly accurate.
That may be so, but it really isn't used that way anymore. To my mind, "We are expecting" means you are expecting a new baby to join your family. Being pregnant on the other hand is a physical condition unique to women (Arnold Schwarzenegger not withstanding) in which a new human being grows inside of a woman. So, when my wife and I decide to have another child and succeed in conceiving we would say something like "We're expecting another child. Gina is pregnant!"