Hey, not much point in doing otherwise.
Not like I have the energy to spend every day until the next movie comes out agonizing over outcomes and decisions I have no control over.
‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct
- Thread starter HaplessCrewman
- Start date
- Status
Hey, not much point in doing otherwise.
Not like I have the energy to spend every day until the next movie comes out agonizing over outcomes and decisions I have no control over.
A
Amaris
Guest
Hey, not much point in doing otherwise.
Tch. Do you even Star Trek?
Why doesn't he try with something else, make mistakes, gain valuable experience and maybe earn our trust (yes our trust doesn't matter but still). I mean that's what the Russo Brothers (Captain America: The Winter Soldier) and Garth Edwards did (Godzilla 2014).
No it's obvious from his Twitter rants that he's a narcissist who thinks he's entitled. If he truly loved ST why doesn't he just focus on writing a good script and try to get an experienced director to do the job.
Tch. Do you even Star Trek?
Outed, damn you. At best, I Star Waddle. I leave the Trekking to younger and less ruined souls.
There's really no reason for him to "earn our trust" on something else. Yes, we love Trek, but it's not like it's the Mahabharata or something. It's as worthy of taking a flier, particularly at this point, as any other property.
OTOH, many great movies have been made by entitled narcissists. Why do you think anyone knows who Roman Polanski is today? His being an entitled narcissist has little or nothing of predictive value to convey about whether he'll be a successful director.
Yeah No real reason except that any rational person will think he's over his head and completely fail. You know it would be nice for ST to be seen in a positive light for once.
Roman Polanski hasn't made a good film since Chinatown and that's because of his entitled narcissism drove him to rape a girl. As for other examples, they are either lucky or have had something to hold back their worst impulses.
Why exactly should you care? You don't like NuTrek anyway, and I get that since I'm not especially enthused either. If he fails there's a good chance that that's its end. If he succeeds you'll get a decent Trek movie, or at minimum have closure about whether Trek on the AbramsTrek model is going to be the franchise henceforth. What downside is there? What point is there in agonizing over it?
The Pianist, The Ninth Gate, Frantic, Bitter Moon and Death and the Maiden were all pretty well regarded, actually, despite the fact that (and you're quite correct) his entitled narcissism drove him to rape a girl. What that tells us is that even the very worst forms of entitled narcissism (of which so far as we know Orci is not guilty) are not predictive of ability as a filmmaker.
[Not that I'm saying, BTW, that I think it's cool that the movie industry continues to embrace Polanski despite his being a super-obvious rapist. That's a whole other convo.]
I don't care. It's just fun arguing.
Like I said Roman Polanski hasn't made a great film since Chinatown.
Now you're talking my language.
The Pianist and The Ninth Gate are both better films. There, I've said it.
I actually dug THE GHOST WRITER. It ain't CHINATOWN, but what else is?
Just because in your opinion this is the case, doesn't mean it's "rational", logical or real. You're basically setting yourself up to claim that anyone disagreeing with you is irrational.
Precisely. Which is, incidentally, a highly irrational position to hold.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
He made THE TENANT after CHINATOWN and that's even better unfortunately. And I loved THE GHOST WRITER, even though he made it. The guy sounds like he was always psycho, even before his wife was murdered. Ellison as I recall had an encounter with him that really soured him on the guy, even though he admired the talent.
I think you've missed the past five plus years? Was it amnesia or a coma?
A deep coma indeed. Star Trek has never been as financially successful or well-received by the critics as it is right now.
Cameron's always been very hit-and-miss for me. I'm not as in love with Terminator 2 as a lot of folks are.
We could say quite a bit about Cameron but since he's not the topic of discussion, I'm not entirely sure what point you're attempting to make.
Star Trek and its sequel have made the better part of a billion dollars in theaters and hundreds of millions more in home video, expanded Trek audiences around the globe and garnered overwhelmingly positive reviews. It's never been more well-received than this.
Any other interpretation of the performance of these two films is sheer revisionism.
To pre-empt those who will still insist on giving another interpretation, this kind of success does not mean that it was a good movie.
Just imagine how much better a real Star Trek movie would've done. - Status
Similar threads
