New Battlestar Galactica Movie

[Kokomo]

My hope is that this movie has more in common with the Singer/DeSanto attempt and less to do with Moore's series. I feel like if this movie is going to be a complete "re-imagining", then it should stay clear of the most recent conceptualization.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I wasn't talking about dedicated sci-fi fans. I thought it was clear from the context of our conversation.

Nope. The only actual context is how many people are really familiar with BSG. It's still not as well-known beyond the sci-fi community like Star Trek and Star Wars, but enough that the name might strike a bell with some like so many other cult classic properties.

Fair enough, except I think you have to infer I only know sci-fi fans since I was responding to the claim that only sci-fi fans know of the show with the statement that I don't think I know anyone who hasn't at least heard of the show.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I wasn't talking about dedicated sci-fi fans. I thought it was clear from the context of our conversation.

Nope. The only actual context is how many people are really familiar with BSG. It's still not as well-known beyond the sci-fi community like Star Trek and Star Wars, but enough that the name might strike a bell with some like so many other cult classic properties.

Fair enough, except I think you have to infer I only know sci-fi fans since I was responding to the claim that only sci-fi fans know of the show with the statement that I don't think I know anyone who hasn't at least heard of the show.

I actually said more than once that there are people who have at least heard of Battlestar Galactica--but that's where their knowledge of it ends. As such, they're not that familiar with the property as far as its setting, characters, storylines, etc. To a large extent, it was perhaps known to many as "Battle of Galactica," part of the Universal Studios Tours from '79-'92.

 

[Roshi]

Can we reopen the old sub-forum now?

 

[Captaindemotion]

I think tonally, I'd like this to be somewhere between TOS and nuBSG. it shouldn't be as cheery as Star Wars: A New Hope but I'd like a sort of Empire Strikes Back type vibe.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

This is what I find odd, did the Reptile Cylons die out, or were they murdered dead by the Robot Cylons... Why was the magic Ghost Cylon played by Patrick McNee so prorobot-Cylon if his people had been butchered by the Robot Cylons?

But can you imagine the nice robot Cylons trying so hard to serve and save the Reptile Cylons as they are passing through some sort of extinction that they cannot counter?

Reminds me of the mechanoid Kryten from Red Dwarf still making meals for the skeletal crew of the crashed star ship he was on, a thousand years after they had died.

The original reptilian Cylons were wiped out by the robotic versions. IIRC, the Imperious Leader had Macnee's voice because it was Count Iblis (also Macnee) who enabled the Leader to have that kind of power.

Apollo's account in "Saga of a Star World" was ambiguous: "There are no real Cylons left. They died off hundreds of yahrens ago, leaving behind a race of super-machines."

Adama's narration in the "Experiment in Terra" telemovie said the Imperious Leader "turned against his creators and ordered his subjects to exterminate all human life forms." ("Human" obviously being used in an extremely broad sense here if it includes intelligent reptiles.)

Can we reopen the old sub-forum now?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The original reptilian Cylons were wiped out by the robotic versions. IIRC, the Imperious Leader had Macnee's voice because it was Count Iblis (also Macnee) who enabled the Leader to have that kind of power.

Apollo's account in "Saga of a Star World" was ambiguous: "There are no real Cylons left. They died off hundreds of yahrens ago, leaving behind a race of super-machines."

There's some stuff about this in the deleted scenes. I can't remember which episode, but there's one such scene where Apollo is talking to Boxey and explaining how the original, reptilian Cylons were wiped out by the centurions.

 

[Mudd]

Ultimately, the appeal of BSG as a movie now is the same to Universal as the appeal of the TV series was in 1978: Star Wars with the serial numbers filed off, nothing more and nothing less.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

I forgot earlier to mention Baltar's description of the reptilian Cylons as "beings who allowed themselves to be overcome by their own technology." (War of the Gods)

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

There's some stuff about this in the deleted scenes. I can't remember which episode, but there's one such scene where Apollo is talking to Boxey and explaining how the original, reptilian Cylons were wiped out by the centurions.

That would be interesting to know which episode.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

I don't want to sound like a stick in the mud, but I like the current re-imagined BSG and don't need another one yet.

nuTREK came 43 years after the first tv show debuted, nuBSG came 26 years after the first tv show. It seems too soon to "reboot" this franchise again.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don't want to sound like a stick in the mud, but I like the current re-imagined BSG and don't need another one yet.

nuTREK came 43 years after the first tv show debuted, nuBSG came 26 years after the first tv show. It seems too soon to "reboot" this franchise again.

I think a lot of us like nuBSG.

Clown_Meat is correct in observing the correlation with Star Wars. The original BSG came in on the coattails of the original Star Wars, and this BSG reboot is going to come in on the coattails of Star Wars—Episode VII. When better to capitalize on BSG?

 

[Kirby]

Moon boots and capes. If everyone isn't festooned in moon boots and capes this movie is dead to me.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

There's some stuff about this in the deleted scenes. I can't remember which episode, but there's one such scene where Apollo is talking to Boxey and explaining how the original, reptilian Cylons were wiped out by the centurions.

That would be interesting to know which episode.

I think I was thinking of this. And it wasn't Apollo and Boxey, it was Count Iblis and Baltar. The episode was "War of the Gods":

Baltar: I know you.
Iblis: Do you?
Baltar: I remember that voice, the voice of the Cylon Imperious Leader.
Iblis: The Cylon is a machine.
Baltar: Now. But once they were a race of beings who allowed themselves to be overcome by their own technology.

 

[Guy Gardener]

(Sorry)

So, in a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles crossover, the Centurions take one look at the Turtles, get on their knees and bow to their returned masters. Sure Imperious Leader might be a bit of a dick about it, push back, but the rank and file probably will have a tug of war going on in their hearts and minds about where their true loyalty lies.

(So, sorry.)

In this reboot lets make Apollo the girl, and leave Starbuck as a Bloke?

Who would you rather played nunu Adama?

Richard Hatch or Jane Seymour?

 

[Skellington]

Who would you rather played nunu Adama?

Richard Hatch or Jane Seymour?

The Hatch could make a great Adama if he played it a bit like Tom Zarek.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Baltar: I know you.
Iblis: Do you?
Baltar: I remember that voice, the voice of the Cylon Imperious Leader.
Iblis: The Cylon is a machine.
Baltar: Now. But once they were a race of beings who allowed themselves to be overcome by their own technology.

I don't have horse in this race, even though I did fire the starting pistol, but "overcome" could mean a lot of things other than a cybernetic slave-revolt.

Genetic engineering gone afoul, ecological collapse from unsafe fuel/waste (nudge/wink), a war between reptiles fought and won by centurions, oh, remember that Seaquest where mankind died out in the future because videogames were more thrilling than sex? Medical tech gone batshit? There's a webseries called H+ about terrorists who hack into the microchip brain implants everyone in the first world is implanted with, forcing 2 billion yuppies into a coma until they starve to death... Meanwhile reptiles mean "eggs". Now while a lizard who is an animal might be content to sit on an egg for 4 months, a lizard who is a person will most certainly not when an incubator can be bought for the same price as a toaster oven on earth... I could see an apocalypse spinning out of a really cheap/faulty incubator used world wide that there's an entire generation with birth-defects and/or sterility that the species never really recovers from.

Then of course overcome could mean that they all appeared to simultaneously "explode" during some sort of poorly explained forced evolution experiment, so what the banal world everywhere else assumed was extinction, was actually mass ascension to a higher plane... Which explains the Count.

Wait? Were the angels on the ship of lights the original Cylons?

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Ultimately, the appeal of BSG as a movie now is the same to Universal as the appeal of the TV series was in 1978: Star Wars with the serial numbers filed off, nothing more and nothing less.

Sure, but I suspect they always consider the possibility of attracting the fans of the show with just enough ties to justify using the label. I expect a fairly generic sci-fi survival action film, but I can certainly see them considering borrowing from both versions just enough to pull people in.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I'm going strictly on memory, but I think there was a scene like that between Apollo and Boxey in "Gun on Ice Planet Zero", when they're in the land vehicle.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Where Galactica, especially the original series, differs from Star Wars is that BSG tells a story in which religious faith is placed above science. That sort of message should find a pretty broad audience in today's America. The original series backstory was woven out of Mormon mythology and has obvious allusion to Chariots of the Gods?.

The relationship between religion and science in Star Wars is fundamentally different. Even in the original trilogy of Star Wars, the Force was an element of science fiction, arising organically and never regarded as divine, and there are no gods in Star Wars.