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Your Favorite "Box-Office Flops"

I really liked John Carter when I finally saw it on cable a few months back. The reviews kept me from the theater but now I wished I had seen it on the big screen.
I agree. Not only was it visually pleasing, but that story was quite good, especially the framing story and how the author of the story fit in. I watched it with my brother on Blu ray and we both liked it a lot.

The reviews kept us away from it initially but was pleasantly surprised by it. Maybe it was low expectations or something but I quite enjoyed it. What turned people off of it?

Other movies I've liked that were box office flops AFAIK:

1. Moving (w/Richard Pryor)
2. The Toy (also w/Richard Pryor)-One of my all-time favorite comedies as a kid and, my lord, all of the things in it that I didn't catch until I was an adult LOL!
3. Willow
4. Secret of NIMH(?)
5. Transformers The Movie (1986)
 
I really liked John Carter when I finally saw it on cable a few months back. The reviews kept me from the theater but now I wished I had seen it on the big screen.
I agree. Not only was it visually pleasing, but that story was quite good, especially the framing story and how the author of the story fit in. I watched it with my brother on Blu ray and we both liked it a lot.

The reviews kept us away from it initially but was pleasantly surprised by it. Maybe it was low expectations or something but I quite enjoyed it. What turned people off of it?

Other movies I've liked that were box office flops AFAIK:

1. Moving (w/Richard Pryor)
2. The Toy (also w/Richard Pryor)-One of my all-time favorite comedies as a kid and, my lord, all of the things in it that I didn't catch until I was an adult LOL!
3. Willow
4. Secret of NIMH(?)
5. Transformers The Movie (1986)

Forgot about Willow. Damn good movie. And Nimh-oh, man, I owned it on VHS and own it now on dvd. Wonderful little film. The Toy was flawed, but decent-and Moving was a lot of fun.
 
Willow is great. I also agree with mentions of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. I forgot to include that one in my list earlier.

Another film I like that only did okay-ish box office: High Road to China.
 
The reviews kept us away from it initially but was pleasantly surprised by it. Maybe it was low expectations or something but I quite enjoyed it. What turned people off of it?
Dr. Kermode once listed a few reasons...
There are some critics who will argue passionately that Heaven's Gate is a misunderstood masterpiece, while even the staunchest defenders of Stanton's dirge-fest claim only that it's not as terrible as everyone says. Do not be fooled – it is. Worse, even; a plodding, rambling, shambling headache of an overblown fantasy film, lacking wit, verve, coherence, intrigue or interest. A laughable quote on the sleeve tries to sell this as "Star Wars for a new generation". Sadly it's not even Phantom Menace.​
 
Ed Wood was a nice movie. Rather fitting that it flopped, I suppose, given who its subject was.

Willow was profitable. It just wasn't the box office smash its studio had hoped for.
 
Superman Returns underperformed relative to its budget, but it wasn't an outright flop.

Maybe it wasn't the worst flop in history but it was still a flop. Box Office Mojo gives it's budget at US$270m and it's worldwide takings at US$391.1m. Yes it might not be accurate but a rule of thumb is that a film has to make at least twice it's budget to turn a profit. so there was a short fall of some US$149m.

But in the case of Superman Returns I thin I remember reading that some of the costs of the aborted Superman films were added into that Budget. So without those it might have turned a small profit.
 
Superman Returns underperformed relative to its budget, but it wasn't an outright flop.

Maybe it wasn't the worst flop in history but it was still a flop. Box Office Mojo gives it's budget at US$270m and it's worldwide takings at US$391.1m. Yes it might not be accurate but a rule of thumb is that a film has to make at least twice it's budget to turn a profit. so there was a short fall of some US$149m.

But in the case of Superman Returns I thin I remember reading that some of the costs of the aborted Superman films were added into that Budget. So without those it might have turned a small profit.

Agreed on all points.

Even still, it almost brought in enough ( maybe not "made" because of it's huge budget and the older projects being attached to that budget) that the studio would consider greenlighting a sequel.

In this case WB did the wise thing, at least financially. Just in terms of the money it brought in, Returns was a bigger hit than Batman Begins, but they gave the green light to a Batman sequel then to Returns, because (I believe) WB knew that it was about more than just the monetary figures.

Batman Begins brought in less, but people talked about it more. They were stoked. That enthusiasm wasn't prevalent among people walking out of Superman Returns. Sure, many people liked it, but their weren't tap dancing out of the theater, and they weren't really talking about it. Not really.

I believe the best, single "business" decision Nolan has ever made (and it probably cost him less than a dollar ;) ) was to put in the "calling card" scene at the end of Batman Begins. It got people stoked more than anything else; they just got a great origin story, a new, grittier take on Batman, a take that was more realistic, and now there was the promise that Nolan would bring that vision to the Joker. Unlike the reaction of people walking out of Superman Returns, people were stoked, completely psyched about the possibilities of the sequel.
 
I'll add to the John Carter parade. It was a fun movie, and it did well overseas, even if it underperformed at home. Away from Sci-Fi, 'Suicide Kings' was a very enjoyable little known flop. A guy recruits his friends to help raise a ransom for his kidnapped sister. The plan is to kidnap a mob kingpin and extort the ransom from him. Christopher Walken is great as the mob kingpin and the whole cast is great fun to watch. Dennis Leary plays Walken's lieutenant in grand psycho style. A fun movie.
 
But in the case of Superman Returns I thin I remember reading that some of the costs of the aborted Superman films were added into that Budget. So without those it might have turned a small profit.
That's right. That's why it's more a case of underperforming than being an outright flop. It came pretty close to getting a sequel.
 
I tend to think of flops as movies that came & went super fast & nobody remembers them ever being released.

A lot of my DVD collection is in this area.
 
I tend to think of flops as movies that came & went super fast & nobody remembers them ever being released.
A lot of movies that fill that bill had very low budgets, such as the films you've mentioned earlier in the thread, so even though they flopped there wasn't much money at stake, and in many cases they weren't given much of a theatrical release. The films I think of as big flops are the big budget films that got a wide release and ended up losing a lot of money. People very much remember them, but do so as much for being flops as anything else.
 
I liked the Green Lantern movie. Mainly because Green Lantern was always my favorite DC character, and I find the Corps (all of them) to be a great idea.

Pity we probably won't get another. Especially given the final scene, which obviously set up the Sinestro Corps.
 
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me.

I love Superman Returns and absolutely adored Brandon Routh's portrayal of Big Blue. I think it's a damn shame he never got another shot at the character.

I also thought Watchmen was fantastic.
 
I love Superman Returns and absolutely adored Brandon Routh's portrayal of Big Blue. I think it's a damn shame he never got another shot at the character.
Brandon Routh was a terrific Clark Kent / Supes. Henry Cavill appears generic and soulless in comparison. However, the plot wasn't really that good, and Kate Bosworth was a casting choice from hell (by far the worst Lois ever).
 
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