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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

I'd like to ask that STID vs TWOK not be played out in this thread, thanks. There's a whole forum for that! :techman:
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

I'll second that. Try to keep the "Abrams ruined Trek" comments in other threads. We have more than enough Lucas-oriented geekwank to discuss. :)
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

About that Caedus rumor; it's total BS.

We've known from the beginning that the story is 100% original and is not going to be drawing on or adapting any story arc(s) from the existing EU material.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

While they'll clearly be doing their own story with no regard to the EU... it's entirely possible they'll decide to have one of the Solo/Skywalker kids turn evil. :) It's the most obvious direction to go with the story. Abrams loves character drama and tension; isn't it better to have a family villain than some external character with no emotional connection to our characters?
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Mr Light said:
While they'll clearly be doing their own story with no regard to the EU... it's entirely possible they'll decide to have one of the Solo/Skywalker kids turn evil. :) It's the most obvious direction to go with the story. Abrams loves character drama and tension; isn't it better to have a family villain than some external character with no emotional connection to our characters?
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Exactly. It's the most logical / emotional way to make the story a compelling drama. Also, for one of the solo children to make the very same mistakes their grandfather made in turning to the dark side is right out of Shakespeare.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

I wouldn't go so far as to say they'd write the scripts with "no regard" to the EU. Just because the post-ROTJ Expanded Universe will be largely jettisoned or heavily overhauled doesn't mean that elements won't be affectionately inserted and some ideas won't get used, albeit in altered form to reflect the "new" history following the victory at Endor.

We could still see the Solo Twins, Ben Skywalker or Grand Admiral Thrawn surface. Just because the books themselves and the rigid sequence of events they've depicted will no longer be adhered to doesn't mean we won't see some of the characters plucked out, tweaked and dropped into the new scripts to play out an all-new sequence of events.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

IF they use anything from the EU, it will probably be names only, so if we WERE to get characters named Jacen, Jaina, Ben, etc., the chances are highly likely that they would have completely original backhistories and characterization completely separate from the EU.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

DigificWriter said:
IF they use anything from the EU, it will probably be names only, so if we WERE to get characters named Jacen, Jaina, Ben, etc., the chances are highly likely that they would have completely original backhistories and characterization completely separate from the EU.
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I don't think Abrams or Lawrence Kasdan [who is actually writing the script] will follow the EU exactly, but having one of the Solo children turn to the dark side IMO is a very compelling storyline.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

A Solo kid going dakr would be pretty handy. They wouldn't even have to pick a new Sith name as "Darth Solo" sounds pretty spiffy.

My guess is that the only element brought over from the EU will be Lando bringing hot chocolate into the known galaxy.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

DigificWriter said:
IF they use anything from the EU, it will probably be names only, so if we WERE to get characters named Jacen, Jaina, Ben, etc., the chances are highly likely that they would have completely original backhistories and characterization completely separate from the EU.
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So basically what happened in The Clone Wars? I could definitely see that happening.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

DarthTom said:
DigificWriter said:
IF they use anything from the EU, it will probably be names only, so if we WERE to get characters named Jacen, Jaina, Ben, etc., the chances are highly likely that they would have completely original backhistories and characterization completely separate from the EU.
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I don't think Abrams or Lawrence Kasdan [who is actually writing the script] will follow the EU exactly, but having one of the Solo children turn to the dark side IMO is a very compelling storyline.
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Really? After the whole thing with Anakin's fall and redemption, going back and basically doing the same thing all over again with his grandson just seems redundant to me.

Indeed, endless repetition was one of the main reasons I stopped reading EU novels after a while.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

DarthTom said:
DigificWriter said:
IF they use anything from the EU, it will probably be names only, so if we WERE to get characters named Jacen, Jaina, Ben, etc., the chances are highly likely that they would have completely original backhistories and characterization completely separate from the EU.
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I don't think Abrams or Lawrence Kasdan [who is actually writing the script] will follow the EU exactly, but having one of the Solo children turn to the dark side IMO is a very compelling storyline.
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Or it could suck. The writers of the Legacy of the Force novels sure proved that.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

The Kasdan/Abrams script is based on the Arndt script, which was based on story ideas directly from Lucas, which further supports the statement about the film's story being completely 100% original and not based on anything from the EU.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

It's not though. From all accounts they threw out everything that Arndt developed (with Lucas) and started from scratch reportedly because Abrams wanted a Leia/Luke/Han movie instead of one about the new generation of characters (which was the original idea Lucas had).
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

As far as I can tell "all accounts" are in fact nothing but third hand rumours and wildly embellished speculation. All we know is that Abrams is taking a pass at the script. We have no idea what was in it initially, nor what he is and is not changing.

It's all idle speculation at this point.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Most of the Wookiees seen in the Battle of Kashyyyk in Episode III were digital, so I don't think augmenting Peter Mayhew's physically limited performance with some CGI in necessary spots would be any big deal for the producers. Even Artoo and Threepio were rendered as completely digital characters in certain scenes of the Prequel Trilogy.
 
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