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Your Favorite "Box-Office Flops"

BigJake

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Heaven's Gate, once supposed to be among the worst films and biggest box office flops of all time, was re-released in its original cut a couple of years ago, and lo and behold turns out to be a truly great epic Western. The story of its original release is a strange tale of petty feuding by the studio with its director that resulted in the studio pretty much blowing its own foot off, foisting an inferior cut of the film along with a juicy "disastrous production" story on the public. Years later, the film is back as a genuine hit.

This put me in mind of "box office flops" that in fact are good or great films, some of which have gone on to become hugely influential classics. Of this category of films, what are your favorites?

My top twenty:

1. The Iron Giant: Failed at the box office but made Brad Bird a legend anyway.
2. The Big Lebowski*
3. Bringing Out the Dead
4. Ride With the Devil (simply one of the best Civil War epics ever made, and one that doesn't romanticize -- nor demonize -- the South)
5. Cloud Atlas (brilliant realization of what I'd thought was an unfilmable book)
6. Citizen Kane*
7. Harold and Maude*
8. Children of Men
9. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
10. Office Space*
11. K-19: The Widowmaker (probably not helped by its forbidding History Textbook name, but it's a badass submarine drama)
12. Blade Runner*
13. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (it was just too soon to make it, but my God was it beautiful)
14. Donnie Darko*
15. Lolita
16. Grindhouse
17. Idiocracy (as a satire of the stupidity often exhibited by present-day pop culture it's almost too spot on)
18. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story ("Get outta here, Dewey! You don't want no part of this sh*t!")
19. The 13th Warrior (actually a pretty credible adaptation of Crichton's Eaters of the Dead)
20. Conan the Barbarian

* Yes, these were all box office bombs. So too were The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life.

Note that a lot of these -- like Blade Runner, Big Lebowski or Iron Giant -- seem to be examples of the "long game" in cinema: that dedication to simply making a good movie can be rewarded by long-term profits and credibility long after more forgettable, but short-term profitable, films sink beneath the waves. (Cf. the number of people today who can remember Presumed Innocent, Bird on a Wire, Cobra, Stir Crazy, Brubaker, Disclosure, What Lies Beneath or Hope Floats -- all hits in their time.) Would you say this is true of any of your picks as well?
 
Waterworld was a good movie (IMHO), and worldwide, was not a flop.

I liked The Postman too, which definitely was a flop.

Did The Iron Giant really do that badly? I think that's one of the best animated movies of all time.

I don't know how well So I Married an Axe Murderer did at the box office (I think not well) but that movie kills me every time. I've probably seen it 50 times.

"Oh, I HATED the Colonel. With his wee beady eyes!"

:lol:

I almost forgot...Serenity.
 
I think that "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" is one of the greatest movies ever made so that definitely gets my vote. I also have to agree that "Waterworld" is a great movie.
 
Serenity and Buckaroo Banzai are both excellent picks. I might have to look at that top twenty list again. ;)

I do think Sucker Punch deserves to be better-regarded than it is, or at least given credit for an interesting concept, even if it didn't quite work. (I wonder if that one might actually be destined to have something of a cult following.)
 
I do think Sucker Punch deserves to be better-regarded than it is, or at least given credit for an interesting concept, even if it didn't quite work. (I wonder if that one might actually be destined to have something of a cult following.)

I certainly hope so, I thought it was pretty good as well.
 
I did enjoy "Supernova" and "Red Planet"...certainly nothing award-winning, to be sure...but they were ok...
 
Good idea for a topic, BigJake. My list most assuredly contains some of the movies you've mentioned, so here it is:

Serenity
The Big Lebowski
Idiocracy (which was SCARILY accurate)
Cloud Atlas
Office Space
Blade Runner
Waterworld
Dragonfly
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Mars Needs Moms
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Meet Joe Black
The Terminal
It's A Wonderful Life
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
 
Buckaroo Banzai

Is it really a flop when they were going to make a sequel?

I think in that case the bad box office probably tanked the planned sequel.

J., your mention of Dragonfly brought CQ to mind, a good, quirky little film by Roman Coppola which was awesome Because Angela Lindvall (seen in the "film within the film" Codename: Dragonfly):

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWhrwYK9PtU[/yt]

I don't know if it quite qualifies as a box office flop, it only made 400K or something but might have cost even less. But anyway, more people should see it.
 
Never heard of Oscar before. That actually had a pretty heavyweight cast.
It starts off a little slow, and (at first) Stallone is kind of forcing it, but he very quickly gets into it, and the film is very funny. It takes place almost entirely on one set in one morning, and involves a lot of humor that is kind of old-school (like characters who confuse things, and there's three identical bags, and they get confused by everyone).

I really like it. A lot
 
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I don't know how well So I Married an Axe Murderer did at the box office (I think not well) but that movie kills me every time. I've probably seen it 50 times.

"Oh, I HATED the Colonel. With his wee beady eyes!"

:lol:

I own this on DVD. A really underrated Mike Myers flick with more examples of his fixation on the Scottish (several years before Fat Bastard). The picture of QEII on the dartboard in the loo was a funny touch.

"I think most Scottish cuisine is based on a dare"


I'm certain it was a flop, since I never heard of it until I saw it on local TV, but Quickchange is another one in my DVD collection.

Bill Murray, Randy Quaid, Geena Davis and a few other mid-level stars.
 
"I Wanna Hold Your Hand". It was gone so fast from the theaters I missed it but managed to track it down years later.

My love of the Beatles is what first interested me in the film.
 
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