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Do you think LotR holds up?

The movies themselves hold up pretty well as one grand epic split into three parts (the Extended editions only improve upon this).

Parts will always fall by the wayside and could have been done differently and everybody has different parts they don't like.. i could have used less comic relief Gimli which i attribute to the insane notion that all action movies need someone funny to lighten the mood.

Could have also used less ridiculous Legolas stunts.. we know that Elves are far more agile than anybody else but surfing down stairs on a shield while shooting Orcs? :rolleyes: I love the small details that show these differences such as Legolas walking on the snow while everybody else sinks in.. it was a bit more subtle and not on the nose like some other scenes with him.

Digital effects also look a bit wonky sometimes, especially when they used the mass software to show huge amounts of troops.. especially noticeable in the final battle at the Gates of Mordor when Sauron dies and his troops are fleeing (though the team did a brilliant job often finishing the effects just mere weeks before release).

I especially love the first movie. Fellowship of the Ring has everything in it.. establishing the characters very well, action, fantasy and huge emotional moments ( i nearly broke down twice when the Fellowship mourned Gandalf after he fell in Moria and when Sam declared his friendship to Frodo at the end of the movie "Don't you leave him Samwise Gamgee!" :weep::techman:).

No matter the faults or deviations from the books i still love these movies because i'm a huge fantasy fan and this is one of the biggest epics in that genre done very well.
 
We'll see. Batman Begins was initially said to be a prequel, wasn't it?

By who? The people involved in making it?
Probably by media, and I don't remember anyone involved calling it a reboot prior to release, or otherwise stating that it was going to ignore the existing movies in any way... All this was almost a decade ago.

theenglish said:
A prequel to what? Batman Forever?
A prequel to Tim Burton's 1989. Batman, obviously.
 
I remember reading that BB would be an origin story, which we didn't really get in the Burton films. That may be why some thought it would be a prequel.
 
Probably by media

Well, there you go. Who ever said they knew what the **** they were talking about?
Certainly not me.

By 2006, Tim Burton's Batman was fifteen years old and Burton was not involved in Begins at all.
No, by 2006 Tim Burton's Batman was 17 years old, and Batman Begins came out in 2005. Eight years after Joel Schumacher's (vomit inducing) Batman & Robin, the one that Burton had nothing to do with, although it obviously belonged to "Burton-verse".

I remember reading that BB would be an origin story, which we didn't really get in the Burton films. That may be why some thought it would be a prequel.
Could be. Like I said, it was a long time ago.
 
I'm now thinking how hilarious it might have been if DS9 had gone on for a season after the Dominion war and the show was consequently accused of having "too many endings".

Ironic to mention this, given the DS9/B5 arguments back in the day, but Babylon 5 pretty much has exactly the problem you describe hypothetically for DS9. I know some people enjoy its last season, but I was never that fond of it. It seemed tacked on.

The only real CG thing that I think looks kinda crappy now is when Legolas is taking down the giant Elephant in "Return of the King." The way he slides off its trunk just looks ridiculous now.

Come on, that CGI looked extremely ropey back in the day too.


Overall though, yes there is some rough-looking CGI, and yes some of the performances are a bit shaky. But they remain an enjoyable movie series. I like FOTR best for its atmosphere and tone, while TTT has serious pacing issues (I skip most of the middle third of the film). ROTK is good, but demands serious patience due to its length, so I rarely rewatch it. But all these problems were present at the time so it's not really a question of "holding up" or not.
 
During the screenings of the first two EE's on Trilogy Tuesday in 2003, a good number of the viewers in my theater got up to use the bathroom at exactly the points where the discs need to be changed. Pavlov would have been proud.
 
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