If There's a New Trek TV Show Then Which Universe Will They Set It In?

[C.E. Evans]

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No, it doesn't nullify that history but creates an alternate version as said in the movie itself. As far as the original or prime universe, it's still there minus Romulus, Spock, and Nero.

It's all perfectly true.

The biggest disappointment is that this alternate universe can't contribute to the future of Star Trek Universe. Kirk&Co would tell only stories from the past.

In a real sense, the future of this new alternate universe is unknown. We don't really know how things will unfold here. Some things that happened in the original universe may happen much earlier, later, or not at all. At the same time, some things that never happened in the original universe may happen here and set off a continuous chain of other all-new events.

 

[dub]

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The biggest disappointment is that this alternate universe can't contribute to the future of Star Trek Universe. Kirk&Co would tell only stories from the past.

It's both a blessing and a curse. The blessing is the writers don't have to worry about continuity except for what's happened in their movies so far. I think that's genius. They can also throw in bits from previous Trek as sort of Easter eggs. Some of that works brilliantly, some of it is like nails on a chalkboard (depending on your taste). The curse is the audience must care enough about the characters to want to continue watching. I say that because these are essentially new characters in a new timeline. Or, the audience has to like action movies and eye candy so much that the characters are on a lower scale. I think the latter has proven true at the box office, and I'm not just talking about Star Trek, although the new Trek films are riding the edge of that for me, especially STID.

The RoddenberryVerse and BennettVerse are gone too!

"Not a matter of dismissing," eh?

The original timeline is not "gone." It still exists. Whether or not writers will return to it for TV or film, no one knows. The TNG films went downhill in popularity. No doubt. But the TNG television series was wildly popular. And from what I understand, the bluray sales are going well. So if they're looking for a Trek TV series, it wouldn't be out of the realm of logic for TPTB to consider taking an actor from TNG to reprise his/her role (a familiar element for viewers), setting it 10 years ahead of Nemesis, and coming up with a new premise, a new exploration series, or whatever. On the other hand, they might want to do a total reboot for TV. Or put it in the JJ-verse. My point is nobody knows, but a case can be made for any timeline, or none of the above. It's just a matter of who pitches the concept and which idea gets the green light. But to say those timelines are "gone" is just something none of us knows.

 

[drt]

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But to say those timelines are "gone" is just something none of us knows.

I think that they're more "gone" in the sense that it will be a whole new production crew and writing staff, and even if they flat out say it's a continuation of the "Prime" universe, they will pick and choose concepts they like and flat out ignore or outright change stuff they don't, which will make the canonistas crazy, to the point it will probably be critizied as PUINO (Prime Universe In Name Only) and not a "real continuation".

In retrospect, the Berman era is probably something that will never happen again, with the same production making 25 seasons worth of TV.

 

[C.E. Evans]

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But to say those timelines are "gone" is just something none of us knows.

I think that they're more "gone" in the sense that it will be a whole new production crew and writing staff, and even if they flat out say it's a continuation of the "Prime" universe, they will pick and choose concepts they like and flat out ignore or outright change stuff they don't, which will make the canonistas crazy, to the point it will probably be critizied as PUINO (Prime Universe In Name Only) and not a "real continuation".

The only "canonistas" are at CBS Consumer Products as canon is merely something for licensing purposes. Everyone else are just Star Trek fans, with some liking one version of Trek over another.

In retrospect, the Berman era is probably something that will never happen again, with the same production making 25 seasons worth of TV.

As dub said, it really isn't something that any of us knows because we don't know who will spearhead a new Trek series and what setting he or she may want to set it in. All we can do is speculate based solely on our personal opinions. For all we know, CBS could care less which continuity a new Trek series is set in (Prime, Abrams, or something entirely new) as long as enough people will watch it.

 

[bbjeg]

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Prime Trek is the continuous story from TOS to the future scenes of 2009's Star Trek. NuTrek nullifies that history.

No, it doesn't nullify that history but creates an alternate version as said in the movie itself. As far as the original or prime universe, it's still there minus Romulus, Spock, and Nero.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe, just the prime trek history. Everyone's there, just doing it differently.

No, it doesn't nullify that history but creates an alternate version as said in the movie itself. As far as the original or prime universe, it's still there minus Romulus, Spock, and Nero.

It's all perfectly true.

The biggest disappointment is that this alternate universe can't contribute to the future of Star Trek Universe. Kirk&Co would tell only stories from the past.

Misquote, I didn't say that.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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The biggest disappointment is that this alternate universe can't contribute to the future of Star Trek Universe. Kirk&Co would tell only stories from the past.

That past is now the present, and anything can happen going forward. The universe continues on a different path.

The prime universe continues on in the novelverse. What happened in the years after after Deep Space Nine ended and Voyager got home is all revealed there. The books are great reads, and have far more depth than a TV series or movie ever could.

 

[The Doctor]

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I recently re-watched 'The Corbomite Maneuver' and was struck at how much ship-board life was shown. You saw the press of the crew in the corridors: the Enterprise looked so cramped. They were clearly on their own, without any safety net and it was grating on the nerves. Kirk and McCoy bickered about the health test and the subsequent change in Kirk's meal plan. The over-eager weapons officer testing Kirk's authority, the high stakes bluff resolved as much by luck as by skill.

I'd like to see that series: a lone starship exploring the vast unknown, with feats of derring-do interspersed with the realities of being confined in a metal box far away from home. I want to see Kirk and Spock fight over a course of action, like in 'The Conscience of the King.' I want to see how the rest of the crew deal with their situation, as in TNG's 'Lower Decks.'

In short, I want to see Star Trek again. I don't want to see interphasic warp-drive nonsense, or a variant of the tired procedurals with a coat of S/F paint, or a post-apocalyptic Federation or another tired 'continuation' of TNG.

Star Trek on television used to be about telling human stories with the aid of the fantastic. The new films have shown that formula can still work. I'd love to see it on the small screen again.

 

[C.E. Evans]

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Prime Trek is the continuous story from TOS to the future scenes of 2009's Star Trek. NuTrek nullifies that history.

No, it doesn't nullify that history but creates an alternate version as said in the movie itself. As far as the original or prime universe, it's still there minus Romulus, Spock, and Nero.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe, just the prime trek history.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe either. But I did say it doesn't nullify the prime Trek history--it's all still there as we saw it from TOS to Star Trek X. As said in Star Trek XI, we're looking at an alternate version. In the original timeline, it's now 2391--four years after the destruction of Romulus, the loss of Ambassador Spock, and the loss of a Romulan mining ship. The original history is still intact (Vulcan wasn't destroyed and Khan never made it back to Earth).

Nobody from the original timeline knows that Ambassador Spock still lives, but in an alternate timeline.

 

[Lord Manitou]

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The previous posts sound like VV8.
On jetc.org their is something called VV8- which stands for Season 8.
At the end of Season 7 Voyager gets hit by something as they exit the Borg Sphere and the Trans Warp Hub.
I shouldn't continue with the story because the books are all written fully and professionaly. Needless to say, it chonicles their attempts to leave an alternate universe where reality is just altered slightly.

 

[bbjeg]

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No, it doesn't nullify that history but creates an alternate version as said in the movie itself. As far as the original or prime universe, it's still there minus Romulus, Spock, and Nero.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe, just the prime trek history.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe either. But I did say it doesn't nullify the prime Trek history--it's all still there as we saw it from TOS to Star Trek X. As said in Star Trek XI, we're looking at an alternate version. In the original timeline, it's now 2391--four years after the destruction of Romulus, the loss of Ambassador Spock, and the loss of a Romulan mining ship. The original history is still intact (Vulcan wasn't destroyed and Khan never made it back to Earth).

Nobody from the original timeline knows that Ambassador Spock still lives, but in an alternate timeline.

I don't think I explained it clearly, it nullifies the history of the alternate timeline's characters. Each character is now free to do, or not do, what their previous characters did. They can make Chekov younger because his parents held back after the Kelvin's destruction, the Enterprise can be bigger for the same reason, and Kirk can still cheat the Kobayashi.

 

[C.E. Evans]

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I didn't say it nullifies the universe, just the prime trek history.

I didn't say it nullifies the universe either. But I did say it doesn't nullify the prime Trek history--it's all still there as we saw it from TOS to Star Trek X. As said in Star Trek XI, we're looking at an alternate version. In the original timeline, it's now 2391--four years after the destruction of Romulus, the loss of Ambassador Spock, and the loss of a Romulan mining ship. The original history is still intact (Vulcan wasn't destroyed and Khan never made it back to Earth).

Nobody from the original timeline knows that Ambassador Spock still lives, but in an alternate timeline.

I don't think I explained it clearly, it nullifies the history of the alternate timeline's characters. Each character is now free to do, or not do, what their previous characters did. They can make Chekov younger because his parents held back after the Kelvin's destruction, the Enterprise can be bigger for the same reason, and Kirk can still cheat the Kobayashi.

Yes, but that's quite different from "nullifying prime Trek history." It's just a case of two separate timelines (realities, universes, call them what you will) that are both ongoing, although we viewers are only following one at present.

 

[Jonny]

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Part of me would actually be interested in a Parallel Universe series.

Other than that I don't care whether it's Berman's, Abrams' or whatever universe I just want Star Trek back on the small screen.

 

[bbjeg]

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Part of me would actually be interested in a Parallel Universe series.

Other than that I don't care whether it's Berman's, Abrams' or whatever universe I just want Star Trek back on the small screen.

Same here.

 

[SonOfTed]

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Michael Dorn confirms he is working on a new "Star Trek" series in which he would star as Captain Worf...

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/

 

[Sindatur]

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Michael Dorn confirms he is working on a new "Star Trek" series in which he would star as Captain Worf...

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/

That's from a year or so ago, and I'm pretty sure we've seen evidence that it's not true. Even so, even if not actually confirmed as untrue, the simple fact of confirmation of activity since then, kinda leans towards not happening.

*Unless it's a Fan Project

 

[C.E. Evans]

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Michael Dorn confirms he is working on a new "Star Trek" series in which he would star as Captain Worf...

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/

That's from a year or so ago, and I'm pretty sure we've seen evidence that it's not true. Even so, even if not actually confirmed as untrue, the simple fact of confirmation of activity since then, kinda leans towards not happening.

*Unless it's a Fan Project

I think it's just an idea that Dorn and some of his supporters would like to do, but that's about the full extent of it.

 

[BigJake]

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The funny thing about that story is that Michael Dorn isn't really "confirming" anything except that he and his agent and his manager have a dream. The headline is completely misleading.

 

[2takesfrakes]

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I certainly don't want a decrepit, wrinkled, lined and flabby Worf leading STAR TREK. It's such a shame that Michael Dorn hasn't had much of a career outside of STAR TREK. He was so lucky, too, that DEEP SPACE NINE was there to keep him employed after TNG went off the air. But, as with the case with William Shatner, it is time for him to let his STAR TREK character go ... unless, of course, Tim Russ has use for him in his next Fan Film. Just don't expect to get paid in anything but gratitude and "free publicity."

 

[Hober Mallow]

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I certainly don't want a decrepit, wrinkled, lined and flabby Worf leading STAR TREK.

Flabby Dorn ain't. He's as skinny as a bean pole now.

 

[-Brett-]

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By the time Star Trek returns to TV (if it returns to TV), AbramsTrek will be as embarrassing and cringe-worthy as BermanTrek. The hypothetical series will almost certainly be another reboot of the original cast. Some characters will certainly have to be sex changed, or replaced by new female characters. The original cast was a bit too much of a sausage fest for modern TV.