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Question for Brits here

Miss Chicken

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Does 'upspeak' annoy you?

WITH its upward tone at the end of a sentence, ‘upspeak’ has become an increasingly familiar sound since Neighbours arrived on British televisions in the mid-1980s.
But the spread of the Aussie connotation among Britons has led to one university effectively banning it among trainee teachers.
Teacher training candidates at the University of Roehampton in southwest London have been told to avoid sounding like Charlene or Scott — played by Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan — during their interviews.
A parent who accompanied their daughter on a recent open day for a course starting in September said: “Towards the end of the afternoon, the co-ordinator said she wanted to offer a few tips about the interview process that would begin once all the applications have been submitted. It turned out she had only one main tip — which was to avoid upspeak. She stressed the point vigorously.”

And

Describing it as the “language of the Sunny Delight generation” Stephen Fry has claimed that he “barely knows anyone under 20 who doesn’t use it”.
However a survey of 700 company bosses by publisher Pearson found upspeak could kill off the possibility of a promotion or a pay rise. An overwhelming majority of bosses — 71 per cent — said it was a “particularly annoying trait”, while 85 per cent added that it is a “clear indicator of a person’s insecurity or emotional weakness”.
More than half warned that it would damage the prospect of a move up the corporate ladder or access to a new pay grade. Only 16 per cent said they would be able to ignore an upward intonation at the end of sentences and focus purely on a candidate’s aptitude, while 44 per cent said they would mark interviewees down by as much as a third because of the way they spoke.

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"Upward intonation?" You mean, as when everything---statements, exclamations, etc--sound like questions? I always thought that was part of some local dialects and not any indication of aptitude or intellect, or even age. Aren't some Irish and Australian accents like that?

I don't see anything wrong with it. Is it really that offensive? I think, if really that offends your sensibilities, you're probably just a snob.

It's not really part of "Valley Girl" speak. That's accomplished more by having a slack jaw and not pronouncing consonants. "Oh my God," turns into "Oh ma Gaw!"

I live in Texas. Compared to some of the accents we hear around these parts, mere "upward intonation" would seem quite charming.
 
When people translate it to writing, it annoys me unreasonably, but in speech I don't really care either way. Seeing as it can come from a place of insecurity about speaking, I'm not going to judge anyone who does it.
 
I suspect many teacher training candidates under the age of 30 in the UK, wouldn't know who Charlene or Scott were in Neighbours. Given that they left the show some 25 years ago.
 
I suspect many teacher training candidates under the age of 30 in the UK, wouldn't know who Charlene or Scott were in Neighbours. Given that they left the show some 25 years ago.

I suppose current actors on Neighbours upspeak, I have never watched neighbours myself.

I don't think I have heard Kylie interviewed for many a year so i don't know if she still does it.
 
It used to irritate the hell out of me. Not when Australians use it but when British people did. Now I barely hear it, it's so prevalent. What annoys me more is the annoying "little girl whine" I hear so many young women around here speaking.
 
I suspect many teacher training candidates under the age of 30 in the UK, wouldn't know who Charlene or Scott were in Neighbours. Given that they left the show some 25 years ago.

I suppose current actors on Neighbours upspeak, I have never watched neighbours myself.

I don't think I have heard Kylie interviewed for many a year so i don't know if she still does it.

It's just that a whole generation (or two) got used to hearing Australian accents on a daily basis who'd never been exposed to it before. I certainly noticed it creep in over the years, but it never bothered me. But it's not the fault of one or two actors, or even a single TV programme.

I never really noticed my own (Essex) accent until I left there and went back years later.
 
Charlene or Scott?!! How many gazillions of years ago was that?

My observations: women use it more than men. Qld'ers use it more prevalently. Not using it (in Aus) can result in being seen as harsh speaking, speaking coldly or forefully. I've had several European friends (women) who have battled this judgement over an inflection that doesn't come naturally at all. One European friend of mine taught herself how to answer the phone in upspeak because she got so much flak over it.. to the point where I now mock her doing so because it's been at parody levels for years poor thing. We used to practice having conversations completely in upspeak :lol:
 
It does a bit, yeah - it seems to have come to the UK from Australia via Neighbours and Home And Away...
 
There is one episode in the Story of English documentary series that mentions this incredibly annoying way of speaking. In that episode it was referred to as "uptalk."
 
One European friend of mine taught herself how to answer the phone in upspeak because she got so much flak over it.. to the point where I now mock her doing so because it's been at parody levels for years poor thing. We used to practice having conversations completely in upspeak :lol:

That's just it, isn't it? If you didn't grow up with it you simply can't fake it. It's part of the dialect.

I inadvertently amuse the locals whenever I say "yogurt". Why they find my pronunciation of this so amusing I don't know, but it's happened so often it's downright annoying.
 
At least in certain contexts, it's quite appropriate.

For example, when you are giving directions to someone, as in the video, you might like acknowledgement that the directions have been correctly received. "Upspeak" intonation implicitly seeks acknowledgement whenever it's used. Appropriate acknowledgement can even be just in the form of a nod of the head, say as each step is written down. Of course, that's a very specific situation.
 
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