Yeah, but they'll botch the roll and then go bitching to the DM that they should get a do over or rule-lawyer and bring the whole thing to a grinding halt.
A&E Taking Heat For Suspending 'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson
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Too much thread to read it all, but props to A&E for taking this anti-American bigot off the air, even if it costs them money. It's tragic that, thirteen years into the 21st century, throwbacks like this still exist. It just goes to show that we all need to continue speaking out against bigotry, because the job is far from done. It might also be a good idea to buy something from the A&E store.
No thanks. I took the red pill long ago...All that understanding comes later, first comes the acceptance of Jesus as savior. If you are truly interested in hearing about the hope and salvation Jesus can provide from sin, I can communicate with you through PM or otherwise.
Don't worry, gay couples got married in Utah today. Their fucked up world is caving in and with each passing day of god not destroying the gays, blacks, jews, muslims, ext. they die a little on the inside.
But is a brown-skinned Jew really what we tend to mean when we refer to someone as being "black"? ( This assumes for the sake of argument that Jesus was actually a real person as opposed to a remix of earlier messianic hero figures. )
Over a dozen amalgamated into one at last count.
Still waiting for Brent to back up his claims on Christ with chapter and verse, or quotes from the Bible.
You see, I have accepted Jesus as saviour, and "those things" have come for me. Clearly the faith of others is weak. Or, at least their reading of the Bible is incomplete.
You see, I have accepted Jesus as saviour, and "those things" have come for me. Clearly the faith of others is weak. Or, at least their reading of the Bible is incomplete.
As a Jew, I'm not big on watching TV shows or movies about Jesus. However, if they made this into a movie, I would watch the Hell (pun, intended) out of it!
I can see it now:
Narrator: In a world filled with sin, He sent his only son.
*the camera shows the birth of Jesus*
Narrator: Gifted beyond mortal man, he can perform miracles...
*quick shots of Jesus walking on water, turning water to wine, curing the lepers*
Narrator: But, there's a problem...
Jesus: Each year I'm on Earth, I lose more of my powers. By 35, I'll be mortal, just like you...
Narrator: Now, as he turns 33, he has only two years left to save humanity...by risking it all.
Jesus: Don't you see, it's my only hope, our only hope, I have to die for all of our sins!
Narrator: From the same people who brought you The Passion of the Christ and that Bible miniseries where the guy who looked suspiciously like Obama played the Anti-Christ...comes a movie that proves God loves you...Son Down
*the camera shows Jesus nailed to the Cross*
Jesus: Oh, and when my father said, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself," He totally meant only if they're white, straight, rich, and male.
Narrator: This Christmas, don't let the Son set on you!
If all the other times he's done this are anything to go by, you're in for a long wait.
But those are Paul's words, not Jesus's. One problem I have with the New Testament, is the words and ideas of Paul ( and other early Christian leaders) are given equal to or greater status than Jesus. Paul is especially problematic, because he never met Jesus in the flesh, walked with him or studied with him. Yet he's the "go to guy" for interpreting what Jesus meant. Peter, the guy who Jesus claimed to be the rock on which the church is to be built, takes a back seat to the Johnny come lately Paul. I get the impression Paul took Christianity and just added his own ideas and interpretations to it.
No one is required to like everything or everybody. No one is required to believe the same thing. All Robertson did is voice his opinion that LGBT are sinners and he didn't understand the lifestyle. If you are not grown up enough to say "whatever" and move on, then LGBT deserve the backlash they get in stoking the fire.
Live your life and let it go. You weren't watching Duck Dynasty anyway; it's nothing to you. And if you really think this bearded hick is ever going to do anything that truly affects your life, then you're deluded.
Live your life and let it go. You weren't watching Duck Dynasty anyway; it's nothing to you. And if you really think this bearded hick is ever going to do anything that truly affects your life, then you're deluded.
I simply believe that one should have the freedom to express their religious views without punishment. Whether you agree with it or not. I believe this for all religions.
Religious Freedom is what this country was founded on.
You are welcome to disagree with me. I won't punish you for it
As an historian, I will disagree with you, in particular the bolded part.
Some of the English colonies were founded for religious freedom. Virginia, the first, quite notably, was not. Virginia was a money-making enterprise. (It didn't make the Virginia Company any money, but that's beside the point.) The Carolinas, Georgia, the mid-Atlantic colonies, excepting Maryland and Pennsylvania, were not religious colonies. There was nothing religious to Roanoke or Jamestown. Britain seized New Amsterdam because it was a good trading port, not because it was a religious haven for the Dutch Reformed. France and Spain colonized the New World not for religious reasons but because they wanted money. Religion was not a primary reason for most of the colonization efforts.
Plymouth and Massachusetts and Maryland were all founded for religious reasons, true. Maryland as a haven for the Catholics because they were persecuted in Anglican Britain. (And, ironically, the Catholics ended up disenfranchised and persecuted in Maryland by the Protestants. The last land battle of the English Civil War happened outside of Annapolis when Royalist Catholics attempted to oust the Puritan colonial government and failed.) Plymouth and Massachusetts were founded by Puritans who believed that the Anglican church was too permissive and too corrupted by Catholic influences, but there was no freedom of religion there; if you weren't a Puritan and you didn't toe the line, you were an enemy of the state, and some were banished and some were executed. The Puritans didn't come to America to create a place of religious freedom. The Puritans came to America to establish religious theocracies, and they were very successful at doing so. The Puritans waged the most effective War of Christmas ever, and they outright banned the holiday; by comparison, what FOX News calls a "war on Christmas" is an utter failure.
It's unfortunate that America venerates the theocratic Puritans as our founding myth. We pretend that Jamestown doesn't matter, that America really got started in 1620 and Plymouth Rock. We pretend that the Pilgrims are an uplifting story of religious freedom, ignoring that for them religious freedom meant something as militantly intolerant as jihadist Islam is today. The myth is uplifting. The reality is far messier.
So he can voice his opinion that LGBT are sinners, and presumably, you're saying he doesn't deserve the backlash he's getting.
But, in your opinion, LGBT should just accept that he had a right to say what he wanted and if they voice their opinion that he's a bigot, they deserve the backlash.
Gotcha.
Shilliam Watner
Commander
The group GLAAD which persuaded A&E to suspend Robertson is getting harsh backlash. They are admitting it.
Duck Dynasty’ Fallout: GLAAD Reeling From Biggest Backlash in Years, Says Rep
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/duck-dynasty-fallout-glaad-reeling-biggest-backlash-years-010050637.html
In the fallout over Wednesday’s suspension of “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson by A&E for anti-gay and racist remarks, GLAAD is experiencing record levels of backlash.
“In the five-and-a-half years I’ve worked at GLAAD, I’ve never received so many violently angry phone calls and social media posts attacking GLAAD for us speaking out against these comments,” the media watchdog organization’s vice president of communications Rich Ferraro told TheWrap.
He said those reactions range from those who simply believe as Robertson believes to those who feel that GLAAD and A&E’s actions limit the reality star’s free speech.
You're not really interested in discussion, are you?
Shilliam Watner
Commander
Here's more: Camille Paglia, a lesbian dissident feminist, says the removal of Phil Robertson is utterly fascist and Stalinist. You know something? She's right.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/p...erly-fascist-utterly-stalinist/#ixzz2o1dtIcuy
The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E’s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.
“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.
“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.
According to Paglia, the culture has become too politically correct.
“To express yourself in a magazine in an interview — this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic Party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades,” Paglia said. “This is the whole legacy of free speech 1960’s that have been lost by my own party.”
Paglia went on to point out that while she is an atheist she respects religion and has been frustrated by the intolerance of gay activists.
“I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility,” Paglia said. “This is not the mark of a true intellectual life. This is why there is no cultural life now in the U.S. Why nothing is of interest coming from the major media in terms of cultural criticism. Why the graduates of the Ivy League with their A, A, A+ grades are complete cultural illiterates, etc. is because they are not being educated in any way to give respect to opposing view points.”
“There is a dialogue going on human civilization, for heaven sakes. It’s not just this monologue coming from fanatics who have displaced the religious beliefs of their parents into a political movement,” she added. “And that is what happened to feminism, and that is what happened to gay activism, a fanaticism.”
http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/p...erly-fascist-utterly-stalinist/#ixzz2o1dtIcuy
The suspension of Phil Robertson from A&E’s Duck Dynasty is outrageous in a nation that values freedom, according to social critic and openly gay, dissident feminist Camille Paglia.
“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.
“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.
According to Paglia, the culture has become too politically correct.
“To express yourself in a magazine in an interview — this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic Party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades,” Paglia said. “This is the whole legacy of free speech 1960’s that have been lost by my own party.”
Paglia went on to point out that while she is an atheist she respects religion and has been frustrated by the intolerance of gay activists.
“I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility,” Paglia said. “This is not the mark of a true intellectual life. This is why there is no cultural life now in the U.S. Why nothing is of interest coming from the major media in terms of cultural criticism. Why the graduates of the Ivy League with their A, A, A+ grades are complete cultural illiterates, etc. is because they are not being educated in any way to give respect to opposing view points.”
“There is a dialogue going on human civilization, for heaven sakes. It’s not just this monologue coming from fanatics who have displaced the religious beliefs of their parents into a political movement,” she added. “And that is what happened to feminism, and that is what happened to gay activism, a fanaticism.”
Which is a moot point SINCE IT'S NOT THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT THAT'S DOING IT.
How many times does this need pointing out? And that wasn't a rhetorical question, by the way. I'd really like to know.
To me is being a dark skin jew the same as being "black"? No. But to these idiots anyone who isn't whiter than snow is probably considered black. Thus Jesus was black.
Also Jesus had long hair. That's a sin according to the Bible, just like being gay.
But let's not worry about facts get in the way of our hatred.
So, help me understand your point here better... It's OK for Phil to say what he said with no backlash, but it's also OK for people who disagree with what GLAAD said to backlash against GLAAD.
Hmmmm... So, in your world, "freedom of speech" continues to be guaranteed only to those who agree with you.