USA and UK surviving into the Trek era
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I don't understand. Tsiolkovsky was a pioneer in the development of rocket technology. Why wouldn't he get a starship named after him?
^I believe that the plaque was made in order to honor the museum and its namesake. It's not necessarily a prop made to represent something in-universe, but something made with real life concerns that appeared in the series to give it importance.
This, for what it's worth, was the only reference that I recall to 'current' Earth in the original series:
Yeah but its name keeps getting changed to Istanbul not Constantinople.
Then again during WWIII, Istanbul may have been taken from Turkey and renamed Constantinople. Or the Turks changed its name back, like Leningrad is once again St. Petersburg.
This, for what it's worth, was the only reference that I recall to 'current' Earth in the original series:
Stockholm, Eurasia. It doesn't say Sweden. Interesting.
Also doesn't say United Earth, they probably could figure out which planet it's going to without it being labeled. Without that piece of information the US postal service would likely lose the box.
If you think about it, the box should indicate which planet it's being routed to.
Why wouldn't it be?
Because it's part of the People's Republic of California. Has to be, there's a red star and bear on their flag.
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^^ This. It sounds like whoever taught that class was more concerned with disseminating Politically Correct propaganda than teaching facts.I've an Aunt from Argentina and I've never heard anything like that from her, or her family when they come over. Sounds like PCness run amok more than anything else to me.A large portion of my father's side of the family lives in Brazil, and I lived there as a child, and have visited other nations on the continent. For someone from South America to self identify as a "American" is almost unknown.
Then it is possible I have been misinformed, because I took a class that stated the opposite: that in many Latin American countries in particular, in Both North and South America, many people identify themselves as "American," regardless if they are Mexican, Guatemalan, Panamanian, etc. Perhaps it is more a Central American thing, then? Or maybe it is a small but vocal amount of people who do this? Or it could possibly be something more akin to a train of thought rooted mostly in academia? Or maybe a little bit of all, where maybe it is a very small minority of people in said locations that practice this, and academia has picked up on this and exaggerated the extent of the practice, making it sound more widespread than it really is?
Anyway, my understanding for the rationale of people in the Americas outside the US calling themselves "American," is somewhat of a reaction to the fact the US citizens referring to themselves as American, and they feel the term has been highjacked by the US, and minimizes or excludes other people that live in the Americas, but outside the US.
The primary meaning of "American" is "a citizen or national of the United States of America" or "of, belonging to, or pertaining to the United States of America."
As for South America, they stole our name.
You might be able to omit everything after "Sol System." Mail within America doesn't mention "USA," and you only put down a country if the mail is going outside your own.
Well it is two and a half centuries in the future, things change. San Francisco could be part of the People's Republic of California (
). Or it might be a sovereign city state of it's own, the peninsula, Marin county, San Jose and maybe Oakland. Something like that.Another possibility is, as I understand it the current series of novels (which admittedly I don't read) place the federation legislature in the city of San Francisco, along with Starfleet Headquarter and the Academy.
The entire city might be "extra-territorial." Legally not a part of Earth.
A lot of people wonder whether it's a part of the United States now.
^ Hey, I liked SF when I was there this summer. I thought it was pretty cool. Definitely not as miserable as L.A. 
I'd like to think that there is no more need for things like this in Trek's time.
Paris, I think.
I'd like to think that there is no more need for things like this in Trek's time.
Paris, I think.
Beijing
No, that's Berkeley.A lot of people wonder whether it's a part of the United States now.
Government offices?
Maybe they'll do what America, Brazil and some others did and build a purpose built capital (like Washington D.C.), instead of locating it in a pre-existing city. Definitely should not be inside one of the United Earth's member countries. Perhaps a not too isolated island somewhere, connected to the mainland by a long causeway.
Make it so there are no residences in the capital itself, to avoid the problem we have in America with the endless high pitch whining from people who live in Washington D.C.
