Who is the most evil individual to appear in the entire Star Trek franchise? What was the most evil regime in entire Star Trek franchise?
The most evil individual and most evil regime in Star Trek
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You would think by definition, Armus was....but as Picard said, he was just weak.
I dunno. Trek humanizes their villains so much...I don't want to pick an individual just by their actions, like say the Female Changeling. I can't think of any major characters who were mustasche twirlers with no redeeming qualities. I suppose any Nazi stand-in Cardassian doctors or 'commandants' would be my answer.
As for regime, Mirror Universe Empire.
I dunno. Trek humanizes their villains so much...I don't want to pick an individual just by their actions, like say the Female Changeling. I can't think of any major characters who were mustasche twirlers with no redeeming qualities. I suppose any Nazi stand-in Cardassian doctors or 'commandants' would be my answer.
As for regime, Mirror Universe Empire.
I'd say Kivas Fajo from TNG's The Most Toys was pretty despicable.
I second the vote for Kivas Fajo, his evil was not drastic, nor could it be measured by any means on a grand scale, but it certainly stemmed from the seven deadly sins. And it was driven by nothing more than greed and vanity.
Also, I like Saul Rubinek, the actor that portrayed Kivas.
As far as my favorite villain, I'd have to say it would be Gul Dukat, I wouldn't say that he is particularly evil, but he is the most developed villain in my opinion within the franchise. He had a good character arc throughout the series and what made him a good villain was that you could sympathize with him to some extent and that he was likable.
A likable villain is more dangerous to me.
Thoughts?
hahaha....
J. J. Abrams and the Bad Robot regime.
The borg, for both questions.
It is an individual consciousness and its main pastime is committing genocide on a galactic scale.
Of course, the borg does have serious competition: the klingons (ruthless conquest types, killing being their national sport), romulans (manifest destiny conquest types, plus having no problem committing genocide - see Nemesis), cardassians (again, manifest destiny types, industrial scale oppressors - see Bajor for an example), dominion (see the Quickening, their actions in the alpha quadrant from trying to blow up Bajor's sun to what they did to the cardassians, etc).
In fact, all the neighbours of the federation are so nightmarish, they would make almost any empire in history look like the good guy.
Indeed, they're so xenophobic and amoral that it's a wonder the federation even came to be (indeed, without the writers helping it along, the federation would have been destroyed in the cradle).
You know, his was the first name to enter my mind too.
He did not have nearly the scope and scale of many Trek villains, but his malice was pure. There was nothing redeeming or complex about him at all. He just wanted what he wanted, and everyone else was either a possession or a barrier.
As for an evil regime, how about the Sphere Builders?
The Borg aren't evil. Evil implies immorality but the Borg have no concept of morality at all. They aren't any more evil, than say, a swarm of wasps. They'll kill you if you're a threat but it's instinctual.
To me the most evil characters are the ones that recognize that they are behaving immorally but disregard it because to do otherwise would hinder their objective (emotional need).
By this measure the most "evil" villains are people like Khan and Soran.
To me the most evil characters are the ones that recognize that they are behaving immorally but disregard it because to do otherwise would hinder their objective (emotional need).
By this measure the most "evil" villains are people like Khan and Soran.
In the same 'area of evil' as Kivas...The Plato's Stepchildren race are similar. Worse probably. Kivas seemed to have only *just* reached the level of boredom that he would kill to see what it was like.
The borg is self-aware, understanding the difference between good and evil just fine (it assimilated enough beings for this). It just doesn't care about this.
This makes the borg sociopathic aka evil.
A swarm of wasps doesn't, indeed, can't grasp concepts such as good and evil.
Borg: As someone else pointed out, they're either like wasps (locusts really/the initial idea of them) or they genuinely believe they're bringing order to the galaxy.
Romulans: Actually, the desire not be remembered by history as the guys who wiped out everyone on Earth is exactly why they turn on Shinzon.
Cardassians: Once a rich, spiritual people.
Dominion: They aren't evil, they're just very ruthless.
J. J. Abrams and the Bad Robot regime.
Well, that didn't take long . . . .
Actually, what they genuinely believe is that they can suck the galaxy dry (as in, exterminating/etc), improving themselves.
Already responded to the inaccurate wasps/force of nature analogy.
Actually, the military supported Shinzon in killing the rest of the senate (that's high treason - Himalayas high) because he could sterilize Earth and promised to do so.
Afterwards, 2 whole ships helped Picard - out of thousands. And this, only after Shinzon made clear to the top military/remaining senator his contempt and how little he's controlled by them.
Nowadays, they run a conquest fuelled empire complete with genocide and concentration camps.
They were more than happy to run to the dominion, after being promised a piece of the alpha/beta quadrant pie.
Sure - genocide, attempted genocide, using biological weaponry on a defeated species in order to make a point, etc.
They're misunderstood angels.
Sure - genocide and attempted genocide.
They're misunderstood angels.
[/QUOTE]You just described the Federation.
Also, the Borg stated they wish to improve the quality of life for all species. That's what THEY believe. So no, they don't subscribe to YOUR view of evil.
Really?You just described the Federation.Sure - genocide and attempted genocide.
They're misunderstood angels.
So you can name a few recent genocides on the part of starfleet/the federation, yes? Do tell.
And then said to the species of the federation that they will adapt to service it.
The borg destroys species that add nothing to the collective - such as the kazon; it doesn't bother assimilating them.
And no species has any say regarding their destruction/assimilation by the borg.
But, of course, the borg does all its kiling and assimilating for the little guy. Just a philanthropic day's work, yes, Dale Sams?
Really?
So you can name a few recent genocides on the part of starfleet/the federation, yes? Do tell.
The borg destroys species that add nothing to the collective - such as the kazon;
But, of course, the borg does all its kiling and assimilating for the little guy. Just a philanthropic day's work, yes, Dale Sams?
1) The Borg DESTROYED the Kazon?
2) If you could refrain from discussing subjects in the manner of a 15-year old douchebag, it would be appreciated.
In TOS, evil was more often inhuman, or at least it could not be ascribed to an individual personality, but always to something whereby individual choice and free will was surrendered: the doomsday machine, Nomad, Vaal, M-5, the Oracle, Landru. Not all of them are as equally evil as the villains of the later series, but fit in the context of what could be achieved in 1960s television.
Was there more than one Dominion genocide? The events of What You Leave Behind were entirely the responsibility of the one Female Changeling. All others were cut off because the wormhole was sealed by the Prophets.
7 of 9 stated the borg's blanket policy for dealing with species which can bring nothing to the collective - extermination (during a conversation with Neelix about the borg's approach to the kazon and talaxians).1) The Borg DESTROYED the Kazon?Really?
So you can name a few recent genocides on the part of starfleet/the federation, yes? Do tell.
The borg destroys species that add nothing to the collective - such as the kazon;
But, of course, the borg does all its kiling and assimilating for the little guy. Just a philanthropic day's work, yes, Dale Sams?
This being about my mildly sarcastic lines, yes? Well, a little deserved sarcasm never hurt anyone, Dale.
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