STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]
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I recall being discouraged that the first time I knew about "Bit Torrenting", about five years ago, was overhearing a couple of primary school aged kids talking quite matter-of-factly about some yet-to-be-released films they had already seen.
I don't think it's been demonstrated that the proportion of piracy to legitimate activity is in any way increasing.
The percentage of the population that downloads illegal content would be a lot higher than the percentage of the population that bought pirated VHS tapes back in the day. I think that's common sense and is indicated by the increased attention to piracy from the entertainment industry in the online era. It's the same as with the proliferation of porn. Plenty of people watched porn prior to the internet age, but once people could download porn in their homes the number of people watching and the amount they watched increased significantly. When something, such as obtaining pirated material and/or pornographic material, becomes very easy and has the cloak of perceived anonymity it entices people who might otherwise have qualms about it to go ahead and obtain it.
And what of the percentage of people who own or rent DVD's, Blu-rays, use Netflix, ITunes, etc., versus the percentage who rented or owned VHS tapes back in the day? If it's "common sense" that illegal downloading is up, then it's "common sense" that those numbers of legal behavior are up, too.
If you're going to grind your ax about one aspect, keep it in proportion to everything else.
Anyway, the main point is that "plugging the holes" and "reigning in" illegal behavior wouldn't necessarily improve STID's numbers significantly, if at all or more than only marginally.
Yes, there are more revenue streams from home entertainment these days, and pirating costs revenue across all of those streams. Not every instance of pirating is a lost sale, but a certain percentage are. It's hard to say how many. Netflix may be decreasing pirate activity online, although I've read differing accounts on that.
With that, I agree.
$60-65 million from China and South Korea combined would certainly be a big help in getting the worldwide total into the $450 million range, albeit that the studio gets a low percentage from China.
THIS!!! A dead on rebuttal and depiction of what Star Trek really was. I for one know that I had trouble getting into DS9 because it was too different from TNG (although I did take more interest when the introduced the war with the Dominion). This ethereal image of Star Trek that some people like to wax poetic about is nothing more than revisionist history.
Based on the Thursday number I think we're looking at a $17.5-18.5 million weekend, with an outside shot at $19-20 million if the Friday increase is really good.
wow, got a source on that? sounds like great news.That's because they recut the film with Psy playing Khan.
and Sulu is he leader of the federation throughout.
Now the China box office dude on the boxoffice.com forums is saying $45m is the 'floor' for China boxoffice and he predicts $57m!
So I guess the figures coming out of China are all looking excellent so far for him to be able to make that prediction. If China alone can make that sort of money then I think $500m is possible again.
So I guess the figures coming out of China are all looking excellent so far for him to be able to make that prediction. If China alone can make that sort of money then I think $500m is possible again.
Thursday actual: $2,562,579 for $164,756,486 to date. Star Trek made $2,980,049 on the Thursday before its third weekend.
Wow $50 million from China and another $20-25 million from Japan and Korea would be insane for STID.
It's running about $800,000 less for the week than I predicted now, not bad really.
RAMA
It's running about $800,000 less for the week than I predicted now, not bad really.
RAMA