So did the internet. And that was something that became a part of everybody's household right away too, you're right.
STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]
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So did the internet. And that was something that became a part of everybody's household right away too, you're right.
Someone above had wrote that VHS started coming in sometime in the mid-1980s. I responded as I did.
The first commercial VHS recorder sold in the United States happen in 1977. In 1980, Paramount released the first episodes of TOS onto VHS. The major competitor to VHS was Beta-Max. By the mid-1980s, VHS had won the battle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhs
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_%28VHS%29
http://mroche.umwblogs.org/history-of-the-vhs/
The first commercial VHS recorder sold in the United States happen in 1977. In 1980, Paramount released the first episodes of TOS onto VHS. The major competitor to VHS was Beta-Max. By the mid-1980s, VHS had won the battle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhs
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_%28VHS%29
http://mroche.umwblogs.org/history-of-the-vhs/
If you guys think that there was literally no piracy in the 1970's and 1980's, then you don't know what you're talking about.
There was some piracy back then, but it didn't compare to the mass piracy you have now.
There are are tens of millions more normal people who just want to be entertained than there are die-hard trekkies, so your reasoning is flawed at the start.
In fact, it's the die-hards who are - with extremely rare exception - guaranteed to see this thing more than once, and most have.
No.
The movie's a guaranteed success for Paramount, though not as successful as they'd hoped. As a consequence there will be another one in 2016. There are plenty of folks who pay to see these, a great many more than ever bothered with oldTrek.
There's only one Admiral Buzzkill, silly rabbit.
A lot of us (like me) are old enough to remember how this actually went down. Just because VCRs existed in the late 70s doesn't mean a lot of people had them. It was the same with the first wave of home computers. They were pricey and there were only a small number of early-adopters.
VCRs didn't begin to get affordable until the early 80s, like 82-84. Also, commercial tapes were sold for $79+ in the early days. That was a lot of money then. The home video market only took off when the industry finally decided to lower prices to around $30. The video rental boom soon followed. Many films were held back from home video for a long time as well. Star Wars being the most famous example.
The first tape I actually bought was Wrath of Khan, and I darn near wore it out.
VCRs didn't begin to get affordable until the early 80s, like 82-84. Also, commercial tapes were sold for $79+ in the early days. That was a lot of money then. The home video market only took off when the industry finally decided to lower prices to around $30. The video rental boom soon followed. Many films were held back from home video for a long time as well. Star Wars being the most famous example.
The first tape I actually bought was Wrath of Khan, and I darn near wore it out.
That's fairly accurate.
I'm keeping telling that I'm surprised with the good box office in Brazil with previews in IMAX. I don´t have numbers, but we had previews on May 17th, 25th, 30th and it continues grossing good, several theaters filled. I think Brazil can reach $6 million or more (Star Trek - 1.907 million in 2009) with IMAX. The premiere is in 2-D on june 14th.
The marketing here is strong with interviews (JJ, Karl Urban, Zoe speaking in portuguese and Pine and Zach) on Fantastic - Rede Globo, program with the largest audience. I think we'll have good box office, though many people like Fast and furious, and Wolverine.
The marketing here is strong with interviews (JJ, Karl Urban, Zoe speaking in portuguese and Pine and Zach) on Fantastic - Rede Globo, program with the largest audience. I think we'll have good box office, though many people like Fast and furious, and Wolverine.
Every million helps! 
Yeah.
There was a lot of pirated stuff on video by '83, though. I remember watching crappy copies of both TWOK and E.T. at a party in the summer of that year. They were nearly unwatchable, but there was a novelty to it.
There was a lot of pirated stuff on video by '83, though. I remember watching crappy copies of both TWOK and E.T. at a party in the summer of that year. They were nearly unwatchable, but there was a novelty to it.
Why, do you get a share?Every million helps!
In fact, in the USA, it was "ST II: The Wrath of Khan" that broke the $79 threshold and came out at the ridiculously low $29. IIRC, a chain of pizza restaurants offered Paramount Home Video's latest release, ST II, for that low price - and this opened the floodgates.
Here in Australia, we followed the excitement with great interest. I already had my Beta copies of ST:TMP and "Barbarella" (both were $AU 79). ST II was due soon, but when it arrived it was also $AU 79. I organised a bulk purchase at my local video shop and got six sell-thru copies at a 15% discount.
A few weeks/months later, Australian "Pizza Hut" restaurants had a special offer: selling Paramount's "Raiders of the Lost Ark" for $AU 29! How frustrating! Missed it by one. The prices of all sell-thru videos in Australia started dropping across the board.
Here in Brazil, unfortunately, piracy is strong, but in IMAX is simply the best and the film is being sold with low quality (CAM), it's worth buying it. As the film has not been released on DVD, until the premiere june 14th, I think many people will see the movie first. The price is good. I will take 03 friends of mine who don´t know about Star Trek.
Nah. Reality check.
As soon as video stores appeared, there was video piracy on a "mass" scale. That was the late 1970's. Any bloke with two VCR's could copy a movie illegally. Or, any one bloke and his buddy, who each had their own.
Naturally, industrial machines could make much better copies. To assert that all tapes on all shelves in all stores across the country were legal is simply laughable. Same as today, with DVD's.
The piracy of movies still in the theaters was the bleeding edge. I saw a guy get caught with a tripod set up in the theater at the end of the first run of The Empire Strikes Back, when the crowds had thinned out. That was 1980. That the theater was even alert to that should tell you something.
If anything has changed today, it's just that the cost of making, keeping, and distributing good copies has dropped dramatically. What haven't changed are people's proclivities.
ETA: I agree with what mos6507 and Buzzkill said about price and availability. I remember, too, I was there.
"Star Trek Into Darkness".
As I mentioned in a previous thread, a friend's partner is in a world clinical trial at the moment, one of only six or eight people having special blood serum treatment on a ligament that had previously refused to repair itself. A large amount of blood was taken, reduced down to a small amount of serum, injected back into the problem site - and the ligament has been given a boost for the body to start repairing itself.
"Magic blood" in the 21st century. Imagine what it might be able to do by the 23rd?
The ability to download a good copy online has made piracy more widespread.
No, it wasn't. It was a TV action/drama series, and the science was rarely credible.
No, he didn't. "Wagon Train To The Stars." You ever watch Wagon Train, BTW?
Frequently weapons, and a fist fight or two just about every week.
STID is a lot more like the original Star Trek television series than any previous Star Trek movie.
Well, the ability to watch movies on a PC has made watching movies on PC's more widespread, period. Your statement is about as vacuous as that.
Yes, it's made watching movies on PC more widespread in general, but it's increased the level of piracy since a lot of people who wouldn't buy an illegal physical copy of a music CD or a movie on DVD will download an illegal copy given the ease and anonymity (or at least perceived anonymity). There's nothing vacuous about pointing that out.