Klingons in STID--why do they look like [SPOILERS]?

[BritishSeaPower]

They did look like Klingons. I wish we got a better lit look at them, though. It seems a natural progression, especially since the makeup hasn't been "seen" since 2005. Not sure I dug the bedazzled ridges, though. Seemed a little odd.

As well, given that we had Augment-Klingons and Kiss-Klingons, it's not too far off the mark to imagine these guys are another off-shoot/ethnic group/race of Klingons.

Not quite on topic, but no other good thread for this. I enjoyed the little nod to Martok with the Ketha Province.

 

[Amaris]

They did look like Klingons. I wish we got a better lit look at them, though. It seems a natural progression, especially since the makeup hasn't been "seen" since 2005. Not sure I dug the bedazzled ridges, though. Seemed a little odd.

As well, given that we had Augment-Klingons and Kiss-Klingons, it's not too far off the mark to imagine these guys are another off-shoot/ethnic group/race of Klingons.

They may be a bit more tribal in their attitudes. A lot of tribes like having jewelry, mainly in noses and ears, but if you have a head full of ridges, that just seems ripe for the bedazzling.

Not quite on topic, but no other good thread for this. I enjoyed the little nod to Martok with the Ketha Province.

Yep, that was a nice nod.

 

[cooleddie74]

I noticed the nod to Martok and DS9, too. The people who say J.J. is pissing all over established Trek lore and jettisoning the old timeline and reality are full of it.

 

[Hober Mallow]

You know, I sort of like the look of the Klingons in the new film, but I also think canon should be respected and there should be consistency. If the Klingons are prominent in the next film, a two minute explanation about their appearance would be swell.

Oops. You goofed. Allow me to fix it for you:

If the Klingons are prominent in the next film, a two minute explanation about their appearance would put everyone to sleep.[/

There, that's better.

It took 40 years to explain why the Movie/TNG+ Klingons looked different than the TOS ones. And there's never been an explanation as to why there are so many variations of Movie/TNG+ Klingons. So, why does this variation need an explanation?

To reinforce the fantasy that Star Trek is real.

 

[BritishSeaPower]

They may be a bit more tribal in their attitudes. A lot of tribes like having jewelry, mainly in noses and ears, but if you have a head full of ridges, that just seems ripe for the bedazzling.

Certainly. It was a bit visually odd. Because it was so rushed at first, I thought they were bony protrusions and not jewelry. The logic behind it is sound, though. I mean, we know Klingons love their gold accouterments.

I believe Martok is even considered to be inferior because he's from Ketha. Maybe there are deeper race politics in the Klingon Empire than we've ever thought! :-p

 

[Amaris]

They may be a bit more tribal in their attitudes. A lot of tribes like having jewelry, mainly in noses and ears, but if you have a head full of ridges, that just seems ripe for the bedazzling.

Certainly. It was a bit visually odd. Because it was so rushed at first, I thought they were bony protrusions and not jewelry. The logic behind it is sound, though. I mean, we know Klingons love their gold accouterments.

I believe Martok is even considered to be inferior because he's from Ketha. Maybe there are deeper race politics in the Klingon Empire than we've ever thought! :-p

Could be! Plus, their appearance was different enough to knock me off balance for a moment, which I see as a good thing.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I believe Martok is even considered to be inferior because he's from Ketha. Maybe there are deeper race politics in the Klingon Empire than we've ever thought! :-p

Well it does kind of look like a craphole.

I also noticed that Praxis (if that's what it was) looks more intact this time.

 

[cooleddie74]

Considering what Klingons evolved from:

I'd say the fact that any Klingons look as consistent and humanlike as they do is pretty impressive.

 

[Amaris]

I will forever hate that episode. Forever.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Quick question am I the only one who feels kind of bad for the Klingon Uhura killed?

Because that looked like it was probably the worst why for a guy to die.

 

[cooleddie74]

Barclay Spider is going to lay eggs inside your thorax for that, J.

 

[Bengoshi2000]

On a related note I found it interesting that the Praxis "incident" seems to have already happened in the Abramsverse.

Still like the look of the Klingons in STID!

 

[Amaris]

Barclay Spider is going to lay eggs inside your thorax for that, J.

Ugh.
Seriously, if I could burn the master film for that episode, I would be happy.

 

[cooleddie74]

I saw that! I'm actually surprised somebody hasn't started a thread on the shattered remains of Praxis orbiting Qo'noS.

Unless that's a different moon. After all, in TUC Dmitri Valtane calls Praxis "a Klingon moon" before Sulu goes into detail about how it's a key energy production facility.

 

[BritishSeaPower]

I would say it's one of those "There if you get it, but doesn't have to be" references. I assumed it was Praxis. And it's not the only TUC reference/nod in the film.

 

[cooleddie74]

The appearance looked similar to the Excelsior's long-range sensor image of Praxis from the Prime timeline. There were differences, but even Qo'noS itself hasn't been depicted in completely consistent terms since the very first time we saw it on TNG during the third season of the series.

I'm going with "that was Praxis" unless we read otherwise from the producers.

 

[shapeshifter]

It looked like a real version of the computer enhanced graphic in TUC, to a tee. That's why it reminded me of that. Good homage, don't care if it is 'too soon' for that to have happened or not.

The Klingon's were fine, much better than I thought they'd be based on the screen cap.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The probably began overmining Praxis earlier because of Nero and Starfleet's buildup.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I liked this movie so much I really don't care whether they're consistent with much of the previous timeline or visual continuity at all. Let these guys do what they want as long as they stay entertaining.

 

[F. King Daniel]

No.

Heck, even an official explanation in a press release as to why the Klingons look as they do would be nice. It wouldn't have to be explained on screen. A documentary on the evolution of the appearance of Klingons would be sweet.

The first three are different actors but are understood to be the same person, the 4th is because of a bigger budget and perhaps Starfleet spent more on ships in the alt. timeline because of Nero's attack, the 5th one makes no sense at all and the last one is because the Kahless that Kirk etc. saw was his idea of what he would have looked like, not what Kahless actually did look like.

Surely this comes under bigger budget too? It's why the Klingons were given bumpy heads in the first place.