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Finally BBC gives us a Tardis Schematic!

Is that really a schematic? It looks more like a warning display to me. It might be as representative of the true layout of the TARDIS as a subway map is to the real layout of the transit system, i.e., extremely simplified and cleaned up.
 
It struck me as almost a flowchart lol... but since the rooms and corridors are reconfigurable at will, there's really no permanent floorplan of course. This kind of general "how things are tied together" pic is about as close as we can get.
 
starsuperion said:
This is from Journey to the Centre of the Tardis! Imagine being a Trekker and finally after 50 years we finally get a ship schematic..this is huge! I will be doing that in the Time Lord Compendium!

Check it out..

http://time-lord-rassilon.deviantart.com/

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE...s_schematic_by_time_lord_rassilon-d64kn3j.png
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I immediately thought of you when I paused on that image! Like the others, I'm not certain this can be considered a proper representation of what the TARDIS looks like (I hesitate to use the word "schematic" since, at least with electrical circuits, a schematic has very little to do with the three-dimensional placement of discrete parts).

On the other hand, maybe that's all the TARDIS really is ... a bunch of ideas about internal relationships given shape and structure through block transfer computations and technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from magic. It has no proper internal arrangement and is more like a mind map or flowchart that can be altered at will and convenience. A sort of meta-existence or manifested virtual world. Which makes efforts like those you undertake doubly troublesome!

Anyway, I agree, it was a great moment to see that on screen!
 
Christopher said:
LOL "rounder on the inside" :techman:

Pavonis said:
Is that really a schematic? It looks more like a warning display to me. It might be as representative of the true layout of the TARDIS as a subway map is to the real layout of the transit system, i.e., extremely simplified and cleaned up.
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yea I suppose I mean its more of the schematic of the dimension, then machine schematics, but to me the dimension in which the ship rests is its own creation, so in a cosmic sense it's schematic is the entire dimension and is laid out differently from most ships. but consider the rings where it looks like rough metal or twisted..I think those are the rooms and if you look at the red circle around the word "library" in one image it has a red line pointing to a small dot like blur in that white/gray ring around the engine.. also that could account for the console room section too..deciphering this image and converting it to plain lines is gonna be hard work but I think it will suffice for an overall pic of the ship in a general "basic" mode sense..

Klaus said:
It struck me as almost a flowchart lol... but since the rooms and corridors are reconfigurable at will, there's really no permanent floorplan of course. This kind of general "how things are tied together" pic is about as close as we can get.
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I agree, what made me consider this the schematic is how in Star Trek or any conventional ship design, it meets certain criteria..an engine room, a power source room, a command section, and so on..labeled out, the map of the corridors and position of the rooms can change with time..but if those rings of what look like twisted metal are the rooms then the spikes we see in different images winding around the ship must be how each section gets selected on while in there (like time focuses to that point).. kinda like a spot light on where you are..

don't know for sure but this image is the first time anyone tried to officially render a Tardis internal Dimension at the BBC.. to me this is huge!:drool:

Psion said:
starsuperion said:
This is from Journey to the Centre of the Tardis! Imagine being a Trekker and finally after 50 years we finally get a ship schematic..this is huge! I will be doing that in the Time Lord Compendium!

Check it out..

http://time-lord-rassilon.deviantart.com/

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE...s_schematic_by_time_lord_rassilon-d64kn3j.png
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I immediately thought of you when I paused on that image!
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Psion, you are so thoughtful..nice to know even if its been awhile that trekbbs has good friends:techman:

Psion said:
Like the others, I'm not certain this can be considered a proper representation of what the TARDIS looks like (I hesitate to use the word "schematic" since, at least with electrical circuits, a schematic has very little to do with the three-dimensional placement of discrete parts).

On the other hand, maybe that's all the TARDIS really is ... a bunch of ideas about internal relationships given shape and structure through block transfer computations and technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from magic. It has no proper internal arrangement and is more like a mind map or flowchart that can be altered at will and convenience. A sort of meta-existence or manifested virtual world. Which makes efforts like those you undertake doubly troublesome!

Anyway, I agree, it was a great moment to see that on screen!
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Well I suppose schematic is a sort of general term to me in this sense.. I too don't see it as a traditional ship design, but I do believe its more like a sort of cuttaway cross section of the dimension..

but then again in star trek you have a bridge, an engine room, and its warp engines however they are connected by actual rooms and corridors.. only in this Tardis ver. you have that as far as the basic engine and power source, ect.. and what look like pointers or spires that seem to move all over the ship and touch those sections in use (CONSOLE ROOM, ARCH-RECON, ENGINE, EYE OF HARMONY)..

what intrigues me is the stuff in the light blue in the backdrop, which looks like machinery and looks like an overall hexagonal sphere..Also I see the middle section of the hexgaonal-honeycomb Engine has depth, which makes me want to see what is inside! either way I think this can be used to describe the inside of the ship's reality on a basic cosmic level. I need more images to draw that so I am going to replay and take some more shots of it for my work..

This could make a great 3D model.. (only I am not a 3D artist) too poor for the courses..oh well.. pen and paper it is.:techman:

yea, It was great to see that on screen :)

Cheers
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Okay upon closer inspection of pic 3 by zooming in where it says "console room"..yep look close..you will be amazed! ...wow.

So that circle saying library is under there the structure.. awesome!
 
starsuperion said:
Okay upon closer inspection of pic 3 by zooming in where it says "console room"..yep look close..you will be amazed! ...wow.

So that circle saying library is under there the structure.. awesome!
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I think you're imagining things. It's nice that you're super-excited about a more-or-less generic graphic, but there's nothing in the image besides shapes and words. It's not really that interesting, and I doubt it's supposed to represent anything about the layout of the TARDIS. What do you think you see that the rest of us don't?
 
Concur. In fact, I actually found it dissappointing because it *only* listed rooms that we saw in the story, as if there was nothing else!

Mr Awe
 
Doesn't quite look like a schematic to me.... I prefer the one that one of the forum members here designed a year or two ago anyway :p
 
How do you design schematics for a ship that apparently can change its own architecture on the fly? What would be the point, then, of laying out a "map" of the interior of the TARDIS?
 
Pavonis said:
How do you design schematics for a ship that apparently can change its own architecture on the fly? What would be the point, then, of laying out a "map" of the interior of the TARDIS?
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There isn't a point. While I appreciate the effort and skill that goes into a project like that, I've always thought it was pretty pointless. Doctor Who isn't the kind of show that lends itself to ship schematics the way Star Trek or Star Wars does.
 
As a creative endeavor alone, there's merit to the effort. The opportunity to flex one's artistic muscles and rise to the challenge of intricately detailing something that's never been seen -- based on the most minute of dialogue clues and set decorations.

But beyond that, there's nothing cast in stone that says the vessel can't be treated just like a Federation starship. Clearly it has at least some physical form. If it were so pointless, why even bother referring to the ship as an outmoded, "Type 40" time capsule? After all, if the whole thing could be reconfigured at whim, certainly someone could come along and upgrade the systems to a type 60 or 80 or 1701 TARDIS with the simplicity of a software patch.

So, since no one's done it before, it might as well be Starsuperion's hand that intricately crafts the look of the ship's inside, even if it is an unofficial effort. And given the number of times he's drawn, re-drawn, and re-re-drawn the ship, it's clear he's still experimenting with how to fit the parameters of the TARDIS on screen with his own preconceptions. He's done a great job so far, and I look forward to the next iteration and the one after that.
 
To each his own. As I said, I appreciate the artistry and work it takes to do such a thing, but I still don't see the point.

It has been well established that the TARDIS interior can be reconfigured on the fly, so any "map" of the interior is pretty useless.

Doctor Who has never been even remotely hard SciFi. As Gaiman recently said, its more of a fairy tale. The TARDIS is a magic box. And that's good enough for me.

But that's just my opinion. Don't let it stop you from creating or enjoying someone else's creative endeavors.
 
Psion said:
So, since no one's done it before, it might as well be Starsuperion's hand that intricately crafts the look of the ship's inside, even if it is an unofficial effort. And given the number of times he's drawn, re-drawn, and re-re-drawn the ship, it's clear he's still experimenting with how to fit the parameters of the TARDIS on screen with his own preconceptions. He's done a great job so far, and I look forward to the next iteration and the one after that.
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Starsuperion has done a great job, but as far as I'm concerned it has everything to do with his talent and his imagination, and almost nothing to do with Doctor Who.
 
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