Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Admiral_Young]

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was misdirection and something else was happening. Marvel is actually a little better at pulling this stuff off than DC is frankly, so they could very well pull something like that off.

 

[Mr Light]

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I could really care less about Angela. Did she stop appearing after the 90s?

 

[Captain Craig]

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Wait, what!!!

Angela, from Spawn. So in that link the copyright over who owns her is settled and Gaiman is loaning or selling her to Marvel? With her being in a 5 issue stint of GotG I wasn't sure if this was akin to Peter Davids character Fallen Angel. That started at DC but was apparently creator owned the whole time and he then took it to IDW.

Is this kinda like that or will Marvel now own Angela?
I don't have any real interest/nostalgia for the character, really more curious about the front office side of this.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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The article Allyn posted I believe explains the current rights situation regarding the character.

 

[Captain Craig]

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It says that while Neil is writing for Marvel Angela will be around the Marvel Universe.
It doesn't explicitly say she is now fully part of the Marvel Universe, wholly owned by Marvel/Disney.
Hence my Peter David/Fallen Angel example.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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The very top of Rich's article states that it is no longer a legal issue. Neil owns Angela and the rest of her angels 100 percent.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03...rian-bendis-co-write-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

I'm also guessing this is just the start of getting us ready for the long awaited return of Marvelman.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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Wait, what!!!

Angela, from Spawn. So in that link the copyright over who owns her is settled and Gaiman is loaning or selling her to Marvel? With her being in a 5 issue stint of GotG I wasn't sure if this was akin to Peter Davids character Fallen Angel. That started at DC but was apparently creator owned the whole time and he then took it to IDW.

Is this kinda like that or will Marvel now own Angela?
I don't have any real interest/nostalgia for the character, really more curious about the front office side of this.

According to Bleeding Cool, Gaiman owns Angela outright in the settlement with McFarlane. Gaiman could well retain copyright in the character with Marvel licensing it from him, or he could have sold the character to Marvel. The former, in my opinion, is more likely than the latter.

 

[Captain Craig]

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Right, it's not a legal issue between Neil and McFarlane anymore. Angela and her angels are 100% Neil Gaimans and for awhile they'll be at Marvel.

It's unclear if they are licensing them or going to own them. But my thinking is, like Allyn stated, probably just leasing them while Neil is around in the Bullpen.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Neil owns them, and is working for Marvel, so as you suggest...one could assume that yes they're on "loan" for the nature of the arc that he's co-writing with Bendis. It doesn't mean that Marvel themselves owns the characters. I was confused at first as to what you were getting at. My apologies Craig

 

[Captain Craig]

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It's good Admiral, we got on the same page for discussion in the end.
I can understand the short term business side of this(from their perspective).
They think it has PR value and will generate some additional buzz for GotG which also has a risky movie in the pipe.

Longterm I see it like the ROM issue. If Angela and her angels generates good-great stories then when they are gone it's a losing proposition. Like how Marvel keeps the Space Knights alive but deep down everyone really wants ROM back but Parker Brothers has the rights.

 

[Davros]

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Is Howard still leading the Fearsome Four?

 

[Mike Farley]

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Deep down inside I want the Micronauts back.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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I wouldn't be surprised if they made a comeback. The Microverse has been used in the last year in a few books...and Marvel did just bring back the New Universe in "Avengers" so anything is possible.

 

[Mike Farley]

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Yeah, but I want the whole schbang, not just Rann, and Mari, and Bug. I want Acroyear and Biotron and Microtron and Baron Karza. Marvel would have to re-acquire the toy rights for that.

But I take what I get. I'm a Micro-mark. I even bought that crappy Son of Hulk mini a few years ago because of the Micro's appearance.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Doesn't Kitty Pryde owe the Baron a punch in the nuts?

 

[Davros]

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I saw a mention of Dire Wraiths recently, does that foretell a return of Rom?

 

[Turtletrekker]

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No, Marvel owns the Dire Wraiths outright. They also own the Spaceknights, they own Galador and everything else that was introduced in Rom. The only thing that they don't own is Rom himself.

However, Rom did appear at the wedding of Rick Jones and Marlo Chandler, albeit in his non-armored form.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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They are never going to make Rom toys again ever.

Marvel must insultingly low ball them every couple years.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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Next week's previews...

• Age of Ultron #3
• A+X #6
• Astonishing X-Men #60
• Deadpool Killustrated #3
• Fantastic Four #5AU
• FF #5
• Gambit #10
• Guardians of the Galaxy #1
• Journey Into Mystery #650
• Morbius: The Living Vampire #3
• Marvel Universe Ultimate Spider-Man #12
• Powers: Bureau #3
• Scarlet Spider #15
• Super Spider-Man #6AU
• Thunderbolts #7
• Ultimate Comics Wolverine #2
• Uncanny Avengers #5
• Uncanny X-Force #3
• Wolverine & The X-Men #27
• X-Men Legacy #27
• Young Avengers #3

I'll be getting Age of Ultron 3, FF 5, Uncanny Avengers 5 (dropping after this issue), and Young Avengers 3.

 

[Admiral_Young]

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-Age of Ultron #3 (might as well stick with it)
-Fantastic Four #5AU
-FF#5
-Guardians of the Galaxy #1
-Morbius: The Living Vampire #3
-Scarlet Spider #15
-Superior Spider-Man #6AU
-Thunderbolts #7
-Ultimate Comics Wolverine #2
-Uncanny Avengers #5
-Uncanny X-Force #3
-Wolverine and the X-Men #27


Another big Marvel Week.