Am I part Irish or not?

[gturner]

I'm from the first generation in our family to be born in the US, and my parents are Indian. But I still consider myself American.

Since you're born here, you're a native American!

And an Indian.

And this is doing absolutely nothing to reduce the confusion between Indians and Indians and native Americans and native American Indians or native Americans with Indian ancestry... We all blame Columbus, who was lost as f***.

That's why I like Indian American and American Indian -- I know it's arbitrary and rather stupid, but it's the easiest way to distinguish. Or, one could do as one of my best friends, Sonia does. With her being Indian American and me being American Indian she's just come into the habit of qualifying Indian with "dots, not feathers" and vice versa.

Well, a brave's feather kind of slants, so we'd have
.Indian and /Indian

For Sikhs we could use a magnifying glass to represent a search bar (seek Indian).

The Internet will define us all.

 

[scotpens]

. . . And this is doing absolutely nothing to reduce the confusion between Indians and Indians and native Americans and native American Indians or native Americans with Indian ancestry... We all blame Columbus, who was lost as f***.

That's why I like Indian American and American Indian -- I know it's arbitrary and rather stupid, but it's the easiest way to distinguish. Or, one could do as one of my best friends, Sonia does. With her being Indian American and me being American Indian she's just come into the habit of qualifying Indian with "dots, not feathers" and vice versa.

The "dot Indian or feather Indian" thing does help alleviate confusion, but some folks probably find it offensive. Although I wouldn't be offended by it if I happened to be Indian. Either kind, that is.

I'm always a bit amused and weirded out whenever someone says they're "proud" to be a certain nationality or ethnicity. To me, pride in something should always be linked to acheivement - you're proud of your own BA, say, or proud of your kids/loved ones and their accomplishments, or even good manners/conduct.

QFT. Or, from your mouth to God's ears, as we Jews say.

Be proud of your personal accomplishments, of what you've done to improve yourself or to improve the lives of others. But being proud of something you were basically handed at birth has never made sense to me.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Mom's maiden name is Lawrenson, which was Scandanavianized* from Lawrence, supposedly Irish.

*Because they were in Manitoba, which is full of Scandanavians, so they wanted to fit in. But they spoke French. Odd bunch.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I'm Irish. My family's name is Tighe (from a Mc name original) and we have Duffy, McCabe, etc. I'm like 90% Irish. My dad has a little non-Irish in him. Needless to say, we take St. Patrick's Day pretty seriously. Always a family gathering.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm Irish. My family's name is Tighe (from a Mc name original) and we have Duffy, McCabe, etc. I'm like 90% Irish. My dad has a little non-Irish in him. Needless to say, we take St. Patrick's Day pretty seriously. Always a family gathering.

Are you sure you're not from Aerilon?

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I'm Irish. My family's name is Tighe (from a Mc name original) and we have Duffy, McCabe, etc. I'm like 90% Irish. My dad has a little non-Irish in him. Needless to say, we take St. Patrick's Day pretty seriously. Always a family gathering.

Are you sure you're not from Aerilon?

Haha....nooooo...but nice reference haha.

I'm all Irish!!!

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm Irish. My family's name is Tighe (from a Mc name original) and we have Duffy, McCabe, etc. I'm like 90% Irish. My dad has a little non-Irish in him. Needless to say, we take St. Patrick's Day pretty seriously. Always a family gathering.

Are you sure you're not from Aerilon?

Haha....nooooo...but nice reference haha.

I'm all Irish!!!

Is All Along the Watchtower playing in your head? 'Cause if it is. you ain't from Aerilon or Ireland.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Are you sure you're not from Aerilon?

Haha....nooooo...but nice reference haha.

I'm all Irish!!!

Is All Along the Watchtower playing in your head? 'Cause if it is. you ain't from Aerilon or Ireland.

lol

 

[Deckerd]

I'm all Irish!!!

I believe you're all American.

I remember Bob Geldof's speech.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I thought this was appropriate:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfdSipd6-PQ[/yt]

 

[IndyJones]

I only scanned it briefly, but I could not find Illinois on that page. I've lived in Illinois all my life, and I can't for the life of me figure out what we call ourselves!

Illini would work too, though spell check doesn't seem to like it. But where I come from, we always just called you FIBs.

This is an interesting topic, and honestly I think more than anything else you are what you think you are. No one would find it weird if I was interested in the Revolutionary War, it created the country I live in. But I have no connection to it, my family didn't arrive for another 70 years. 19th century Irish history? I owe my existence to it. So it shouldn't be unreasonable for that to hold an importance place in my core.

I would never say I'm Irish, though. I'm American, and Irish-American (which honestly is more about the experience of Irish immigrants in America than it is about Ireland, though Ireland obviously plays some part in that).

 

[thestrangequark]

. . . And this is doing absolutely nothing to reduce the confusion between Indians and Indians and native Americans and native American Indians or native Americans with Indian ancestry... We all blame Columbus, who was lost as f***.

That's why I like Indian American and American Indian -- I know it's arbitrary and rather stupid, but it's the easiest way to distinguish. Or, one could do as one of my best friends, Sonia does. With her being Indian American and me being American Indian she's just come into the habit of qualifying Indian with "dots, not feathers" and vice versa.

The "dot Indian or feather Indian" thing does help alleviate confusion, but some folks probably find it offensive. Although I wouldn't be offended by it if I happened to be Indian. Either kind, that is.

Well, we use it only between ourselves really, and neither of us are offended as our respective flavor of Indian, but that's just us.

Speaking of Irish, apologies to all the Irish folk, but I hate St. Patrick's Day and I'm fucking glad it's over! I basically spent my first 15 St Patrick's Days trying to use my green eyes as an out against being pinched because I inevitably forgot to wear green, and the last 15 trying to avoid obnoxious drunken crowds, very few of whose members are likely even Irish!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

My great grandfather came to Scotland from Ireland at the age of 14 in 1914. I'm proud I have Irish ancestry, but first and foremost I'm Scottish.

I'm always a bit amused and weirded out whenever someone says they're "proud" to be a certain nationality or ethnicity. To me, pride in something should always be linked to acheivement - you're proud of your own BA, say, or proud of your kids/loved ones and their accomplishments, or even good manners/conduct.

So to people who say they're "proud to be an American", I say, oh really, you've earned that? If you were born in a poor country, and studied and worked your butt off to become a doctor, and were then offered US citizenship as a result, then by all means, be "proud" to be an American. But the only thing I did to become an American was to be born, and that was really more the doctors' doing than mine. Am I happy to be an American, sure. Proud, no.

I completely agree.

Except for the part about the Doctor. I think your mom had more to do with it than anyone else.

 

[Kestra]

I think people just mean that they are proud of their country and happy about being part of it. Not that they had some special achievement themselves.

 

[propita]

To me, while many things contribute to the make up of a person, while it's neat to me personally that I'm 1/4 Irish, it really didn't contribute to my personality. I'm almost 50yo and just finding out about this, so nothing there having an effect during my formative years.

This is not like my being raised Jewish, being born in the US, in CA in particular, being short, being dependent on glasses, etc, all those factors that went into making me who I am.