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The 11-foot TOS Enterprise model-

As for Ed, he was working as a bit of a contractor when he built the Cardassian Galor Class ship, and was always an ILM'er rather than a Star Trek employee.

Interesting. Perhaps that had some bearing on the unnecessary details added to the 1701?

As for The team thus far, (and believe me NO ONE on this planet wants to see this model restored properly more than me) Doug and Mike have my compleat confidence as technical advisors. They may have started on Star Trek after TOS wrapped, but their research into TOS and their access to archival material relating to TOS is second to none. Additionally, we've spoken to Gary and while somewhat gun shy when it comes to the 11 footer, will be available with his research when we get off the ground. As for the physical resto team, we'll be looking to the incomparable Steve Neill (his scratch built six footer is the best existing model of the original series Enterprise is the best existing example of what that ship should look like on this planet) and hope to have Greg Jein work his magic. (His two week wonder T&T Enterprise is fondly remembered by everyone in the group). Rest assured the Enterprise will be in the very capable hands of people who love her and want to see her stabilized, and restored properly.

Good luck, and I hope you and team are successful in giving this artifact of culture the proper restoration to its 1960s state.
 
Third, Mike was involved in the TOS-R project, whose CGI Enterprise was based entirely on the way she looked, after Ed was done with her.

I have to disagree. I watched a few of the TOS-R episodes on Netflix (The Doomsday Machine, The Ultimate Computer and some others) and thought they did an excellent job with the CGI effects. I never saw the God-awful gridlines which the original TOS model currently shows.
 
In fact the CG model used in TOS-R was in no way based on the Miarecki restoration and did utilize quite a few authoritative references.

The presence of a couple of panel lines on the hull is not evidence to the contrary. :cool:
 
I never saw the God-awful gridlines which the original TOS model currently shows.

Okay, the CGI model differs that some gridlines are lighter than others and it has patchwork plating creating unique Aztec patterns. Is this better, worse or just equally dumb?

Bob

I was mainly referring to the underside of the saucer section which looks horrendous on the original TOS model and absolutely nothing like the TOS-R CGI Enterprise, which is gorgeous on the screen.

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I never saw the God-awful gridlines which the original TOS model currently shows.

Okay, the CGI model differs that some gridlines are lighter than others and it has patchwork plating creating unique Aztec patterns. Is this better, worse or just equally dumb?

Bob

I was mainly referring to the underside of the saucer section which looks horrendous on the original TOS model and absolutely nothing like the TOS-R CGI Enterprise, which is gorgeous on the screen.

2enterprise.jpg
Uh, you do know the current paint job isn't what the model looked like in it's prime?
 
Okay, the CGI model differs that some gridlines are lighter than others and it has patchwork plating creating unique Aztec patterns. Is this better, worse or just equally dumb?

Bob

I was mainly referring to the underside of the saucer section which looks horrendous on the original TOS model and absolutely nothing like the TOS-R CGI Enterprise, which is gorgeous on the screen.

2enterprise.jpg
Uh, you do know the current paint job isn't what the model looked like in it's prime?

He DID say: I never saw the God-awful gridlines which the original TOS model currently shows.
 
(like Ed taking a scribe to the underside of the saucer to scribe the grid lines into the plastic of the hull)


:wtf: :confused: :brickwall:


This means the gridlines were scored into the plastic hull with something pointy or a blade? :wtf: Say it ain't so, Joe.

The TOS-R virtual model is looking better and better. Perhaps that model was the "preservation" spoken of in our ancient prophesies.
 
I was mainly referring to the underside of the saucer section which looks horrendous on the original TOS model and absolutely nothing like the TOS-R CGI Enterprise, which is gorgeous on the screen.

2enterprise.jpg
Uh, you do know the current paint job isn't what the model looked like in it's prime?

Yes, that's my whole point. If you read my whole post and the one that I was quoting, you would know that.
 
I was mainly referring to the underside of the saucer section which looks horrendous on the original TOS model and absolutely nothing like the TOS-R CGI Enterprise, which is gorgeous on the screen.

2enterprise.jpg
Uh, you do know the current paint job isn't what the model looked like in it's prime?

Yes, that's my whole point. If you read my whole post and the one that I was quoting, you would know that.

The more I see that photo, the madder I get. Those lines are ridiculous. Looks like a starship's version of chicken pox.
 
Seeing the name list, the one name that immediately caught my attention is Doug Drexler. Though I'm not a fan of his Enterprise cutaway he did for "In A Mirror, Darkly", he is the one who actually went to the NASM in December 1976, had access to the Smithsonian documentation and took several close-up pictures of the, then, original condition the Enterprise was still in.

Bob

With that in mind, let me recommend Gary Kerr, who helped in the disassembly of the 11-footer for the Meirecki restoration, and photographed, measured the model in subassemblies, and made copious notes. As I'm sure I've mentioned, he recently did all the design work on Polar Lights' new 1/350 scale model kit.
 
Seeing the name list, the one name that immediately caught my attention is Doug Drexler. Though I'm not a fan of his Enterprise cutaway he did for "In A Mirror, Darkly", he is the one who actually went to the NASM in December 1976, had access to the Smithsonian documentation and took several close-up pictures of the, then, original condition the Enterprise was still in.

Bob

With that in mind, let me recommend Gary Kerr, who helped in the disassembly of the 11-footer for the Meirecki restoration, and photographed, measured the model in subassemblies, and made copious notes. As I'm sure I've mentioned, he recently did all the design work on Polar Lights' new 1/350 scale model kit.
Seconded.
 
With that in mind, let me recommend Gary Kerr, who helped in the disassembly of the 11-footer for the Meirecki restoration, and photographed, measured the model in subassemblies, and made copious notes. As I'm sure I've mentioned, he recently did all the design work on Polar Lights' new 1/350 scale model kit.

Big Question: Did Gary Kerr also provide the original parts for the Miarecki restoration (i.e. front nacelles and/or sensor domes and/or sensor dish) that had gone missing prior to the Enterprise's arrival at the Smithsonian in 1974?

Reason: There is this picture circulating of the floor positioned angled model beeing held by a gentleman with a moustache (prior to 1974). Somebody here at Trek BBS has identified the person in the picture as Gary Kerr.

I recently provided a link of a modeler's forum discussing the model and the same picture showed up. Some member of this forum claimed that the gentleman in the picture supposedly kept / safeguarded these pieces which was a wise precaution considering how the ship arrived at the Smithsonian...

Bob
 
I am also shocked to see those exaggerated grid lines on the hull. The good thing about any scoring is that it can be filled in with epoxy or other material compatible with the hull. I truly hope the new efforts will bring our beloved ship back to its former screen accurate glory.
 
With that in mind, let me recommend Gary Kerr, who helped in the disassembly of the 11-footer for the Meirecki restoration, and photographed, measured the model in subassemblies, and made copious notes. As I'm sure I've mentioned, he recently did all the design work on Polar Lights' new 1/350 scale model kit.

Big Question: Did Gary Kerr also provide the original parts for the Miarecki restoration (i.e. front nacelles and/or sensor domes and/or sensor dish) that had gone missing prior to the Enterprise's arrival at the Smithsonian in 1974?

Reason: There is this picture circulating of the floor positioned angled model beeing held by a gentleman with a moustache (prior to 1974). Somebody here at Trek BBS has identified the person in the picture as Gary Kerr.

I recently provided a link of a modeler's forum discussing the model and the same picture showed up. Some member of this forum claimed that the gentleman in the picture supposedly kept / safeguarded these pieces which was a wise precaution considering how the ship arrived at the Smithsonian...

Bob

Gary did NOT supply any parts and is not the guy in the photo you speak of.

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