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Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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One day you'll grow up and realize just how wrong you are. I hope you're real life personality is nothing like the one you present on-line or else you'll grow old a very lonely and bitter individual.

Well, you can probably guess how much I value your subjective taste and intelligence.

Then again, as a society we do sometimes value that which is scarce...

;)
 
It's trying to justify that something is good not because of actual feeling, but because of something immaterial that can't be explained or justified.

Yup. JJ Abrams' vision of Trek is "magical"? What the fuck? Did he have a unicorn as his Director of Photography or something?

One day you'll grow up and realize just how wrong you are. I hope you're real life personality is nothing like the one you present on-line or else you'll grow old a very lonely and bitter individual.

:rolleyes: So because he doesn't think a work of fiction is "magical" (a meaningless term), he's going to be unsuccessful in his personality life?? WTF? What's with all this venom?!?!

Also, it's "your" real life personality.
 
One day you'll grow up and realize just how wrong you are. I hope you're real life personality is nothing like the one you present on-line or else you'll grow old a very lonely and bitter individual.

Well, you can probably guess how much I value your subjective taste and intelligence.

Then again, as a society we do sometimes value that which is scarce...

;)

Not media students however with their favourite saying "Want to supersize?".
 
Yup. JJ Abrams' vision of Trek is "magical"? What the fuck? Did he have a unicorn as his Director of Photography or something?

One day you'll grow up and realize just how wrong you are. I hope you're real life personality is nothing like the one you present on-line or else you'll grow old a very lonely and bitter individual.

:rolleyes: So because he doesn't think a work of fiction is "magical" (a meaningless term), he's going to be unsuccessful in his personality life?? WTF? What's with all this venom?!?!

Not so much, no. Presentation is everything. Jim's is terrible and as they say: "Garbage in, garbage out."
 

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:rolleyes: So because he doesn't think a work of fiction is "magical" (a meaningless term), he's going to be unsuccessful in his personality life?? WTF? What's with all this venom?!?!

I'm gonna die a bitter, lonely recluse and it's all because I didn't find a 2009 summer popcorn movie to be "magical". For not feeling said "magical" experience, I am also a "prick" apparently.


I really hate myself sometimes. I'm such a non-magical prick :(.
 
:rolleyes: So because he doesn't think a work of fiction is "magical" (a meaningless term), he's going to be unsuccessful in his personality life?? WTF? What's with all this venom?!?!

I'm gonna die a bitter, lonely recluse and it's all because I didn't find a 2009 summer popcorn movie to be "magical". For not feeling said "magical" experience, I am also a "prick" apparently.


I really hate myself sometimes. I'm such a non-magical prick :(.

It's not what you like or dislike, we all have our disagreements. It's how you present them.
 
It's not what you like or dislike, we all have our disagreements. It's how you present them.

Well, we have vastly different ideas of what constitutes polite then considering you've called me a prick and all I've done to rise to it is mildly ridicule your belief that JJ Abrams is capable of magical acts. :guffaw:

The cult of personality surrounding him gets more ludicrous by the day. I wonder if he can cure ailments with touch too?
 
It's not what you like or dislike, we all have our disagreements. It's how you present them.

Well, we have vastly different ideas of what constitutes polite then considering you've called me a prick and all I've done to rise to it is mildly ridicule your belief that JJ Abrams is capable of magical acts. :guffaw:

You act like a prick, you'll get called a prick. Such is life.
 
Well, we have vastly different ideas of what constitutes polite then considering you've called me a prick and all I've done to rise to it is mildly ridicule your belief that JJ Abrams is capable of magical acts. :guffaw:

The cult of personality surrounding him gets more ludicrous by the day. I wonder if he can cure ailments with touch too?

If you can't understand that people may enjoy a movie, may find it fun and exciting and moving, if you need that explained to you with charts and graphs, if you openly express disdain and contempt at everyone who is engaged by entertainment on an emotional level, don't be surprised if people don't always take you seriously.

The kind of idol worship you're talking about doesn't exist in this thread or anywhere on this BBS. People here don't seem to have an irrational admiration for JJ Abrams, they just think he did a good job. Is that really so hard to accept?
 
Well, I gave you a reason why you're completely wrong about Spock (and the episodes for reference) and so have others, several times, yet you choose to completely ignore them. :shrug:

I haven't ignored them, I just disagree and genuinely don't see Spock/Uhura as a moving love story but as crass titillation for the casual audience that would absolutely not have existed if Star Trek was still popular. It was a cynical attempt at making Spock not look gay or weird, and to show he's one of the lads.
I guess I just have a really hard with your interpretation of the Spock/Uhura relationship. It's not like they shared a hot sex scene. She followed him into the turbolift to comfort him after his mom died. They shared a kiss.

Beyond that one kiss, they didn't do anything sexual for the rest of the move. I just don't see how an incredibly depressing scene like that counts as "crass titillation."

It's not like Spock was going around fist-bumping the crew after successfully banging the new communications officer.
 
I guess I just have a really hard with your interpretation of the Spock/Uhura relationship. It's not like they shared a hot sex scene. She followed him into the turbolift to comfort him after his mom died. They shared a kiss.

Beyond that one kiss, they didn't do anything sexual for the rest of the move. I just don't see how an incredibly depressing scene like that counts as "crass titillation."

It's not like Spock was going around fist-pumping the crew after successfully banging the new communications officer.

I can't speak for DalekJim obviously, but it's been my observation that most people who denounce "crass titillation" are actually intimidated by the display of genuine human affection. It's not so much sex that make them feel uncomfortable, it's love.
 
"Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometres away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. ” - HK-47
 
Wouldn't it be cool if Abrams made a movie where ships from Trek and Wars fight it out to see which franchise is best, once and for all?

Uncontroversial right? :guffaw:
 
Couldn't make it through the hole thread without responding
When have Star Trek films ( or even Star Trek in general) been deep and substantial? Did I miss an installment? The films since TWOK have always been action oriented. What passes for deep in Trek couldn't drown an ant. They've always been more about feeling than thinking, too. It might be time for Trek fans to stop deluding themselves. ;)
MOST of the TOS movies were about them beibg familial,...disregarding authority for each other since TWOK which is what us fans regard James Kirk in doing.

I'm not deluding myself at all, I could take or leave most of the Star Trek films. Apart from The Motion Picture which is brilliant because it's everything Abrams' Trek isn't.
It's also a boring, poorly written 2001 wannabe that's further away from Star Trek than Abrams film could ever be.
TMP is the only film that Roddenberry was personally involved with, which means that it was the only one that was made closer to his ideas than others of just what "Star Trek" is...and though the movie may be dull IYO I love it.. :techman:
 
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