Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same ship?

[B.J.]

Re: Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same s

Or even Vulcan terminology for starships, considering that we explicitly heard Vulcans providing our Earthling heroes with the "warbird" concept in the pilot episode, and that Vulcans would be the likeliest source for terminology relating to the Romulan war machine just prior to the big war...

We know Romulans are big on bird themes. But they supposedly were that even before the big rift, as they were known as "those who marched under the raptor's wings"... It may well be an old Vulcan thing to regard spacecraft as avians.

Makes sense. Starfleet got its "Class M" planetary designation from the Vulcan "Minshara" class. Not much of a stretch to extend it into ship classes.

Even us mere humans call military planes "warbirds" - it's probably a pretty universal term

I'd be on board with that. Warbird and possibly even Bird of Prey could be a common designation, possibly Vulcan in origin, that's analogous to saying a certain ship is a destroyer or a frigate.

 

[Timo]

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...And now we have "Raptor" to round out this collection. What to add? Might "Buzzard" be a type of salvage tug?

I was always under the impression that Klingon cloaks just weren't all that great

Perhaps not in the late 23rd century. But in the TNG era, they seem to be of very high quality, allowing the Klingons to penetrate all the way to the Romulan homeworld in "Unification"...

None of this invisibility stuff makes sense if we take literally the statement in "Balance of Terror" that invisibility as a concept is purely theoretical as of the 2260s. But if we forget about that one, it seems that Romulans had started toying with visual obfuscation technologies around the mid-22nd century, and had not quite worked out all the bugs yet - whereas other species had fairly well-working invisibility devices, either due to having started earlier on ("Unexpected") or having received aid from the future ("Broken Bow" et al.). Klingons might have achieved their invisibility tech simply by carefully reverse engineering what they got from the Xyrillians, or by stealing from a series of other players until they found a high quality technology they could understand and mass produce. Either approach might keep them behind the Romulans until the 24th century but get them ahead of the competition from that point on.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[SilentP]

Re: Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same s

...And now we have "Raptor" to round out this collection. What to add? Might "Buzzard" be a type of salvage tug?

Hell, Raptor is just Latin for Bird of Prey, so it's even less imaginative that it originally appears...

 

[toughlittleship]

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Are there two USS Excelsiors then, to explain the differences between STVI and "Flashback"? One class with glowing nacelles and a thinner secondary hull?

No because Flashback can be explained away as Tuvok misremembering things. Hell, he thought Lt. Valtane died for fuck's sake.

Why is he remembering things from the outside of the ship?

 

[C.E. Evans]

Re: Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same s

Are there two USS Excelsiors then, to explain the differences between STVI and "Flashback"? One class with glowing nacelles and a thinner secondary hull?

No because Flashback can be explained away as Tuvok misremembering things. Hell, he thought Lt. Valtane died for fuck's sake.

Why is he remembering things from the outside of the ship?

Visualization.

 

[The Wormhole]

Re: Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same s

Are there two USS Excelsiors then, to explain the differences between STVI and "Flashback"? One class with glowing nacelles and a thinner secondary hull?

No because Flashback can be explained away as Tuvok misremembering things. Hell, he thought Lt. Valtane died for fuck's sake.

Why is he remembering things from the outside of the ship?

Let's just accept that Flashback didn't think things through very much at all.

 

[Infern0]

Re: Is the Klingon D7 Class and K'Tinga Class Battlecruiser the same s

Is a Porsche Boxter and Porsche 911 the same car?

Looking alike doesn't mean anything, "under the hood" they are probably vastly different spec