Should Neelix/Kes have stayed together?

[exodus]

So Admiral Janeway travels to the past.

Gives Captain Janeway the godmode version of Voyager.

Janeway uses godmode to kill the Borg and get home.

So isn't there no future Janeway to give them godmode and that equates to a reset button since that Admiral Janeway doesn't exist?

She left the universe to travel through time which divorces this woman from her own continuity, which is the rules we were taught in Year of Hell and Futures End, and even City at the Edge of Forever where Kirk was temporally shielded by the Guardian.

Then why would the Borg Queen, who is supposed to be an authority on time travel, given how "four dimentional" she thinks, operate under the assumption that if she kills young Janeway, old Janeway's bad mojo STD she assimilated would go away?

What gave you the impression the Borg Queen was an authority on time travel?
Just asking.

 

[R. Star]

She implied she was on the Cube Locutus was using to attack Earth, then escaped using time travel. Plus the Collective apparently has the ability to open time portals on a whim as demonstrated in First Contact.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

After you've assimilated a million or so individuals you probably think you are an expert on everything.

 

[R. Star]

Seven of Nine certainly did.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Exactly.

Heck, if I had assimilated a million folk I would hardly be humble about it. Gives "been there, done that" a whole new meaning.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She implied she was on the Cube Locutus was using to attack Earth, then escaped using time travel. Plus the Collective apparently has the ability to open time portals on a whim as demonstrated in First Contact.

And what about the magic door they left in Earth orbit that temporally shielded ships, and could allow protagonists to chase the Borg into the past and route them before they even got a foot hold on their target?

Once you realize that the Queen could have time travelled back in Borg space where it was safe, the only feasible reason that she went all the way to Earth first was so that she could pick up her boyfriend first.

 

[R. Star]

Maybe she knew the future Temporal Starfleet would be expecting that and never would think she'd time travel in the middle of a huge battle with witnesses and uh... yeah? Right..?

 

[exodus]

She implied she was on the Cube Locutus was using to attack Earth, then escaped using time travel.

That's an interesting way to look at it.
I took it to mean that she's more than just a physical representation but rather she exists as pure conscious thought within the collective itself. So even if her body dies, a little bit of her is within ever Drone. So it still keeps to the idea, the Borg are one. They are her and she is them. Thus: "I am the Borg."
Like she's more of a computer program than an actual physical being and she just downloads into a new body upon each "death".

 

[Guy Gardener]

She could have been there physically.

Refugees/assimilated Starfleet crew from Wolf 359 made it all the way to the Delta Quadrant and had group-sex with Chakotay.

 

[exodus]

She could have been there physically.

Refugees/assimilated Starfleet crew from Wolf 359 made it all the way to the Delta Quadrant and had group-sex with Chakotay.

Yeah, could have been sent back on a sphere.


She was there physically, doesn't mean her mind was.

 

[R. Star]

Well the three dimensional terms comment was a take on "you think so two dimensionally."

The forth dimension in many sci-fi settings is time after all.

 

[exodus]

Well the three dimensional terms comment was a take on "you think so two dimensionally."

The forth dimension in many sci-fi settings is time after all.

Is it?
I wasn't aware of that.
Can you explain it further?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Back to the future has us believe that thinking fourth dimensionally is about anticipating how the future will impact on your current planning, that unbuilt bridges will be built by the time you timetravel over them, or it's like how Fry in Futurama was taught that time with Space Invaders that you shoot where the space invaders are going to be, and not where they're at already right now.

Then if you think back to Wrath of Khan, they took him out easy because he was only thinking two dimensionally

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well the three dimensional terms comment was a take on "you think so two dimensionally."

The forth dimension in many sci-fi settings is time after all.

Is it?
I wasn't aware of that.
Can you explain it further?

Dimension uno = length.

Dimension two = width.

Dimension 3 = height.

Dimension IV = Time

Dimension 6 = The ability to recognize a sarcastic question.