Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Reeborg]

For season 2, is the text (font) size of the main menu still ridiculously small (especially for the episode titles and the info below them) as it was for season 1?

It looks the same to me. The "buttons" for the menu remain in the LCARS-like graphics on the edge of the screen with the center and bulk of the screen being mostly blank. They have filled it in with a "scanning graphic" of the Enterprise. But, still, it's a large empty area that'd be better used for the menu or episode previews.

I've watched both Q-Who and MoaM with the Okuda/Director commentary. Both decent and all but would love to have the text-only commentary from the Okudas on most of the episodes like the TOS sets had or audio commentaries from them. I understand their work in the projects makes commentary from them impractical but it'd be nice to have.

I watched "The Dauphin." Not an episode I really like but I was curious how they did the shape-shifting of the character in the episode. In the original episode it was done by painted cells overlaid on the film. In this HD version it seems to be a CGI-recreation which looks better with smoother transitions between the creatures.

Thanks for the info. This leaves me with 2 options:

1) "Exchange" my 32" HDTV set for a much bigger one
or
2) Continue (as now) to get up from the couch and go towards the TV set when we want to read the menu.

 

[MikeS]

I also never realized that Dennis "Danger" Madalone was the security guard who got jacked by the first Borg in engineering in "Q-Who?" I believe he was also the goofy crewman in "Lonely Among Us" who Picard told to focus his thoughts and who delivered the goofy "YES SIR!" line thereafter.

You mean Where No One Has Gone Before

 

[BillJ]

1) "Exchange" my 32" HDTV set for a much bigger one
or
2) Continue (as now) to get up from the couch and go towards the TV set when we want to read the menu.

You really have the much issue seeing those from ten feet? Might be time to invest in some glasses. Or just stick with the DVD's, because you can't be seeing any of the improvements if you can't make out the words on the menu...

 

[TheSeeker]

Well it looks like I won't be getting my set until Saturday. Next time I may just to skip the pre-order and go straight to Best Buy the day it's released.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Well it looks like I won't be getting my set until Saturday. Next time I may just to skip the pre-order and go straight to Best Buy the day it's released.

I do this for titles I really want. In the UK, this set isn't out til next Monday - when I'll be going directly into the city centre for 08:30 sharp to pick it up!

 

[RAMA]

Fantastic so far, the FX "problems" and picture quality issues so far have been non-existent, chalk up the difference in look to lighting and film stock...but this season looks great so far after 2 episodes. The sound has been SUPERIOR so far to the season one set. I've watched maybe 1/2 the extras so far as well.

 

[jimbotron]

I understand that for "Best of Both Worlds", both parts are being done by the same company for consistency.

Great news. I hope the same is done for all the season finales/premieres.

 

[RAMA]

I've watched the first two episodes

1) The inferior quality of the work is apparent. The main thing I noticed were the space f/x shots sometimes looking poorly composited. The other thing I noticed was a quite noticeable variance in the grain from shot to shot, something I hadn't really picked up on in season 1. I was aware of both of these things before I even watched the episodes, but my girlfriend who was not aware of these issues also commented on the grain in certain shots, so it wasn't just me noticing what I'd read about. To me, the grain is the bigger problem of these two issues. I shouldn't be watching the show and thinking about the variance in the grain. i am watching on a 60" TV, this issue may not be as noticeable on smaller screens. For the record, I'm not against grain in general, but I do think it's more important to have a consistent look to the episode. If you're going to DNR scrub, DNR scrub the grainy shots a little too so it's not as jarring. Or better yet, just don't use DNR.

2) SOME of the f/x work looks quite good, like when the Enterprise was launching probes into the void in Where Silence Has Lease. I thought Nageelum could have looked better though.

3) It's still a huge improvement over the DVD releases and I'm not sorry I bought it. I am however glad they are not using the same production house for season 4 and onwards.

So far, I much prefer the minimal grain in season two...Where Silence Has Lease looked beautiful to me..nice and sharp and very little noticeable grain, quite an improvement over season 1!!

 

[davejames]

There you have it: Season 3 Trailer

Man, it's amazing to me how suddenly modern and timeless everything looks once they switch to the collared uniforms.

The show goes from looking painfully dated and 80s to something that could have been shot yesterday.

 

[BillJ]

There you have it: Season 3 Trailer

Man, it's amazing how suddenly modern and timeless the show looks once they switch to the collared uniforms.

It goes from looking painfully dated and 80s to something that could have been shot yesterday.

I actually thought the change in uniforms made them look like bellhops. It's the season 3-7 uniforms that I think have aged the worst out of all the Trek uniforms.

The uniforms made them look stiff, its another change (along with the music and lighting) that I think didn't do TNG any favors.

 

[Mott the barber]

I also never realized that Dennis "Danger" Madalone was the security guard who got jacked by the first Borg in engineering in "Q-Who?" I believe he was also the goofy crewman in "Lonely Among Us" who Picard told to focus his thoughts and who delivered the goofy "YES SIR!" line thereafter.

You mean Where No One Has Gone Before

 

[jimbotron]

This model shot (with cropping) rears its ugly head again in Unnatural Selection.

 

[BrEnDoN]

I actually thought the change in uniforms made them look like bellhops.

Hey, bellhops are some stylish mothereffers...

 

[BriGuy]

There you have it: Season 3 Trailer

Man, it's amazing how suddenly modern and timeless the show looks once they switch to the collared uniforms.

It goes from looking painfully dated and 80s to something that could have been shot yesterday.

I actually thought the change in uniforms made them look like bellhops. It's the season 3-7 uniforms that I think have aged the worst out of all the Trek uniforms.

The uniforms made them look stiff, its another change (along with the music and lighting) that I think didn't do TNG any favors.

Think you're definitely in the minority with that opinion.

 

[Trekker4747]

Shit, look at Jack London in "Time's Arrow" he was the bellhop but apparently in charge of the hiring/firing practices of the hotel he worked for! Heck, he seemed to be the hotel's sole employee!

 

[jimbotron]

Shit, look at Jack London in "Time's Arrow" he was the bellhop but apparently in charge of the hiring/firing practices of the hotel he worked for! Heck, he seemed to be the hotel's sole employee!

He was also a one-stop shop for getting whatever equipment Data needed. Better than Amazon.

 

[Beta-Z]

1) "Exchange" my 32" HDTV set for a much bigger one
or
2) Continue (as now) to get up from the couch and go towards the TV set when we want to read the menu.

You really have the much issue seeing those from ten feet? Might be time to invest in some glasses. Or just stick with the DVD's, because you can't be seeing any of the improvements if you can't make out the words on the menu...

That's for sure. Haven't had any problems with reading the menu on the 32" of my parent's, not even on a slightly BIGGER distance!!

 

[RAMA]

1) "Exchange" my 32" HDTV set for a much bigger one
or
2) Continue (as now) to get up from the couch and go towards the TV set when we want to read the menu.

You really have the much issue seeing those from ten feet? Might be time to invest in some glasses. Or just stick with the DVD's, because you can't be seeing any of the improvements if you can't make out the words on the menu...

That's for sure. Haven't had any problems with reading the menu on the 32" of my parent's, not even on a slightly BIGGER distance!!

32" Tvs are useless for watching most blurays, I use my 32" mainly as my PC screen. I had no probs seeing the cool new menus on my 47" tv.

There you have it: Season 3 Trailer

Man, it's amazing how suddenly modern and timeless the show looks once they switch to the collared uniforms.

It goes from looking painfully dated and 80s to something that could have been shot yesterday.

I actually thought the change in uniforms made them look like bellhops. It's the season 3-7 uniforms that I think have aged the worst out of all the Trek uniforms.

The uniforms made them look stiff, its another change (along with the music and lighting) that I think didn't do TNG any favors.

I seriously doubt that anyone agrees with you.

 

[BrEnDoN]

32" Tvs are useless for watching most blurays, I use my 32" mainly as my PC screen. I had no probs seeing the cool new menus on my 47" tv.

That's one of the things that annoys me about the switch to blu ray. It's really only beneficial if you get a big-ass tv to go with it...

 

[BillJ]

I seriously doubt that anyone agrees with you.

And? Are we only allowed to share our opinions if everyone else feels the same way?